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Congratulations to your Welsh-speaking colleagues[edit]

The Gender by Language stats show that last week 67 of the 70 new biographies on the Welsh wiki were on women. At over 95%, Welsh did far, far better than any other wiki language.--Ipigott (talk) 09:05, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Lists of Listed Buildings[edit]

A lot has been accomplished with the lists of listed buildings for Wales, although there's always more to be done. I would be interested in others' thoughts on the Importance grading for the lists. Taking two examples, Grade I listed buildings in Monmouthshire and Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire are both rated LOW Importance. I've haven't checked them all but this seems to hold true for the lists for the other Welsh counties. I think LOW Importance, indicating that the lists are "of little importance to this project, but (.) cover() a highly specific area of knowledge or an obscure piece of trivia" is an odd categorisation for lists of all of the most important buildings in Wales. I would have thought HIGH a more appropriate designation but would be interested in other views. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 17:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Generally these lists are of buildings of interest (with a handful of Grade II* and Grade I) in a specific part of Wales. The above examples might be of high importance to Monmouthshire, but I can't see how they would be of high importance to the entirety of Wales. Sionk (talk) 21:47, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
I should have given more, and more varied, examples. Take Listed buildings in Cardiff. This includes: Cardiff Castle, the Crown Court, City Hall, Llandaff Cathedral, The National Museum of Wales and St Fagan's. Any one of these seems to me to be of more than LOW importance to Wales - collectively, I would certainly have thought their listing was of HIGH importance. KJP1 (talk) 22:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Honestly, don't get hung up about the importance ratings. Along with the B/C-class distinction, they're an artefact of a long-abandoned scheme from Wikipedia's early days to produce CD-ROM and print versions of Wikipedia and to decide which articles would be included in the limited space; they've had no actual impact on anything for over a decade. Most of the large projects like WikiProject Visual arts and WikiProject Military history have abandoned the importance scale altogether. ‑ Iridescent 22:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks - that is useful to know. If they have no impact, I may just amend anyway to pander to my hang-up. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 09:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I've done a lot of assessment for WP:WALES and other WikiProjects. In some projects articles of type List have an importance of "NA", which I often think is most appropriate. If pushed I would rate Lists of Buildings... as Low or Mid, as they are (in my judgement) a niche interest. I would expect Top and High designations to contain maybe the key 15% of articles on Wales. welsh (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Bryn Cader Faner[edit]

The reference http://www.stonepages.com/wales/bryncaderfaner.html makes no mention of the site being used as target practice. Is there any evidence of this actually happening? Two 'locals' I met up there were angry about the reports that the site was used as target practice, so I think it is important to ensure such statements are correct and not just anti-army propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.254.201.36 (talk) 10:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I suspect the source for this (as with so much bullshit regarding Neolithic sites) is Julian Cope; he openly admits that his books are his personal musings and based on whatever his feelings were at the site, not based on fact, but because he's the popular face of neo-mysticism, his fans have a tendency to assume whatever he says is true. If it had actually been used as a target for WW2 gunnery practice, it wouldn't be standing and the surrounding hillside would be pockmarked by craters. The WW2 gunnery ranges were at Penrhos, Aberdaron and Hell's Mouth on the Lleyn Peninsula, Criccieth, and Aberporth, all of which are some way away—for obvious reasons, military tests were done near the railway lines so they could actually get the equipment and observers in place. I'd consider before the Second World War, the British army removed some stones on the east side equally dubious—the "reference" is questionable at best, and the military had considerably more important things on their mind in WW2 than trekking out to a location in the middle of nowhere and miles from the nearest road in order to rearrange the stones of a stone circle. ‑ Iridescent 18:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

400,000 photographs of archaeological objects found by members of the public in England and Wales[edit]

In recent weeks, 400,000 images of finds, logged and photographed by the Portable Antiquities Scheme, have been uploaded to Commons.

They are now ready for further categorisation on Commons, and use in Wikipedia articles.

Please see this note on Commons and the project page there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages[edit]

Good news: bot report now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Popular pages Agathoclea (talk) 15:57, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Taff Vale Railway page[edit]

Re: Taff Vale Railway page > Cardiff to Merthyr Tydfil legend

The town of Nelson is referred to on three separate occasions in the legend. On each one an incorrect internal link is used. The town in question is Nelson, Glamorgan, Wales and NOT the Lancashire based town. There is a Wikipedia page referring to Nelson, Glamorgan and a brief reference to its former railway station.

I would be grateful for your help in this.

Charmilsky (talk) 21:15, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

@Charmilsky:  Done As there is no page for Nelson, Glamorgan railway station, it will now be a red link. Tony Holkham (Talk) 21:55, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
I altered it to to Nelson for consistency with the existing entry in List of closed railway stations in Britain: M-O#Ne. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)