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Château de Pommard[edit]

A chateau with a COI which deserves attention from knowledgeable editors. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:38, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Wine.

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Captialisation (again... I know... I'm sorry)[edit]

As a long-time WP contributor but relatively new to wine articles, I'd like to offer something of an opinion about capitalisation of grape varieties, or at least a justification about why I just can't quite bring myself to write "Pinot noir" or "Sauvignon blanc" in articles about wine. Using lower-case descriptors (e.g. the blanc in Sauvignon blanc) is just not borne out in any of the literature, popular or otherwise, that I have been reading or citing. It might be correct for a viticulturalist to write Sauvignon blanc to another viticulturist, in the same way that a chemist might write "C₂H₅OH" (or indeed "CH₃CH₂OH") to another chemist when they mean "alcohol", but firstly Wikipedia is not primarily aimed at viticulturists, and secondly, I imagine most viticulturists wouldn't be looking up much on wine on Wikipedia anyway, for the same reason: Wikipedia is for a general audience. A general audience that, if they've read anything about wine anywhere else, will have almost exclusively seen the fully capitalised grape variety names, as the weight of evidence shows. As of 2008 (alas, as far as it goes) a Google Ngram shows that Sauvignon Blanc outweighs the uncapitalised sauvignon blanc by nearly nine to one, and indeed the WP preferred Sauvignon blanc is even less prevalent, by another factor of four. More importantly though, the Ngram also shows that full capitalisation really caught on in the 1980s and hasn't looked back since, while the other option remained static. Ngrams for other grape varieties show similar (and constistently similar) results. Certainly in my experience so far, all the wine writers, magazines, journals and references I've been reading fully capitalise the grape variety as a proper noun. I think it's only fair that we can surely, by now, just accept that the world has moved on (certainly, the bits of the world that write about wine) and that Wikipedia should just follow suit. After all, nobody is arguing that we should decapitalise apple varieties such as the red Delicious. Jon (talk) 12:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

This article might be of interest, although it's rather old and prescriptivist. Formal cultivar names have each word capitalized (with some exceptions, e.g. prepositions). Unfortunately, grape varieties generally do not have established formal cultivar names. VIVC would be a good source for grape variety names, but they have every letter in the name capitalized. I wouldn't object to more capitalization. Plantdrew (talk) 17:50, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
That article expresses one view, and the rules it offers are bizzare, leading to all manner of inconsistencies in capitalization. It's pretty simple, really. Do we treat grape names as proper names or as adjectives? If a proper name, we refer to Zinfandel grapes. If an adjective, merely a descriptor of a noun, we'd refer to zinfandel grapes or zinfandel wine. But I would argue that our usage refers to the names as proper nouns, because we can refer to "Zinfandel" by itself in the context of grape or wine. So that's what we do on Wikipedia. The names of grapes are proper nouns. The "blanc" in Sauvignon Blanc is not merely an adjective describing the color of the Sauvignon grape or wine, but it's part of the name. A grape or wine isn't called simply Pinot except in casual conversation, the name is Pinot Noir or Pinot Gris or Pino Blanc (if such a thing exists). ~Anachronist (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2018 (UTC)


Hi, have found this article that is unreferenced and somewhat spammy. Have reduced the spam a bit and wondered if anyone would like to improve the article rather than deleting it, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

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