Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World's Oldest People

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject World's Oldest People (Rated NA-class)
WikiProject icon This page is within the scope of WikiProject World's Oldest People, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the World's oldest people on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
 NA  This page does not require a rating on the quality scale.
 

Age in Years and Days[edit]

As I was catching up on everything that I missed over the last month, I noticed that there was a low-level edit war over Zoltan Sarosy and the inclusion of the age in years and days template. While I don't have a strong opinion on either way, I can sympathize with the idea that the inclusion of age in years and days is a) trivial and fancrufty (particularly for those supercentenarians that were notable before they turned 110) and b) a violation of WP:V, since it presumes that their age is being verified every day. On the other hand, we have millions of individuals in the "living people" category that we don't verify every day and at that age, a person's notability can be influenced by how many days (as opposed to just years) they have been alive. It may also be considered no less encyclopedic than a myriad of other facts on Wikipedia, particularly those regarding supercentenarians. I think, however, there should be a consensus to point to on this issue, so as to avoid future edit wars. I'm raising it here as a neutral, but willing to be swayed, party: we could use the template for anyone over 110 (or some other age), only in cases where longevity in days is part of the notability, only in supercentenarians not notable for anything else, only for deceased individuals, or probably a bunch of other suggestions that I'm not thinking about, but I think that discussion is warranted given the potential for edit warring. Canadian Paul 19:18, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Since there haven't been any responses in over a week, I'm going to propose what I think is the least controversial option: removing it in cases where the individual is living and notable for something other than longevity. If there is no alternative consensus, I'll go with that. Canadian Paul 15:14, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Since there were no objections, I removed the template from Sarosy, Zhou Youguang, and Richard Arvine Overton. Canadian Paul 14:39, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Canadian Paul: There was no discussion because this discussion seems not to have been noticed by any affected editors bar yourself. @TFBCT1: made me aware of this discussion now, so I'll take it up again. My view is this, people who where notable primarily for other things than their longevity should not have the age in years and days template unless they reach the top 100 living people. In the case of Zoltan Sarosy he didn't manage that, even though it was close. --Marbe166 (talk) 16:57, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@DerbyCountyinNZ: what's your take on this? --Marbe166 (talk) 17:02, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Canadian Paul. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 17:47, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I have no objection to Marbe166's proposal. It's somewhat arbitrary, and I can't argue against verifiability here, but I support it as a way of reducing some of the fancrufty issues that have surrounded this topic. Canadian Paul 18:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Alfred Thambiayah[edit]

I have a question. Why isn't Alfred Thambiayah Sri Lanka businessman, politician and member of parliament on the list of the 10 oldest living men? According to his page on Wikipedia he was born 8 November 1903 which makes him 113 years old and the second oldest living man in the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NLVMom (talkcontribs) 03:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

The article refers to her in the past tense, and I do t see anything suggesting he's still alive. EEng 04:03, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion about article "List of the verified oldest men"[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of the verified oldest men#Category:Lists of supercentenarians , which is about an article that is within the scope of this WikiProject. This is a discussion about whether Oldest People, List of the verified oldest women, & List of the verified oldest men should be listed at Category:Lists of supercentenarians instead of Category:Lists of oldest people since all the individuals on each list are supercentenarians Peaceray (talk) 20:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)