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Introducing the Community health initiative on English Wikipedia
Community health initiative
Helping the Wikimedia volunteer community to reduce the level of harassment and disruptive behavior on our projects.
Hello! Today we'd like to introduce the new Community health initiative, the people who will be working on it, and most importantly how you can get involved. See the post at Village pump (miscellaneous), Cheers, Caroline, Sydney, & Trevor of the Anti-Harassment Tools team. (delivered by SPoore (WMF) (talk) , Community Advocate, Community health initiative (talk) 02:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC))
Reporting cases of bias
As far as I can tell, there seems no proposal on the table for editors who may be experiencing bias and inappropriate counter-productive efforts to build an encyclopedia. Where do I ask for someone to address this issue on my behalf? Best Regards,
- Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 20:32, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- You can see by reading this project subject page that this is a collaboration of editors who deal with systemic bias in Wikipedia articles. Sorry you are experiencing any kind of bias and inappropriate counter-productive efforts here. If you are not satisfied by the editors at the Community health initiative, where tools are being developed for your specific use, then there is always the traditional Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, where you should be able to report any specific case of other editors mistreating you or your work here. There is no excuse for such bias, no place for it on this encyclopedia project! These incidents are best handled by the editor who has been victimized. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 20:36, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
- Adding to that, if you are facing impolite unbecoming behavior, you can ask for a WP:Third opinion on whether the conduct is acceptable. WP:Dispute resolution may also be useful. Harassment and threats of violence, outing or legal action are never tolerated on Wikipedia. If you receive any kinds of threats (even off wiki), immediately report them to WP:AN/I or by e-mail to the Wikimedia Foundation at firstname.lastname@example.org, and appropriate action will be taken. LK (talk) 04:26, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Discrepancy in AfD results and bias towards keeping US/Europe/Australia transport articles
I have been trying to contribute for a week and I feel there is a certain amount of discrepancy in AfD results. This has been extremely discouraging, particularly because my second article was nominated for deletion within a few hours (despite similar articles in Europe/US existing for years). I have been contributing broadly about transport and places and I can't help but feel that articles about US/Europe/Australia tend to be kept while similar articles about India (and other Asian countries) are quite easily deleted. There is a requirement of WP:BEFORE but editors seem to ignore it and just vote for delete without even attempting to find sources. There is also a lack of will to WP:PRESERVE information. In cases of US/Europe/Australia, often editors ask for a merge to preserve information. However the same courtesy is not extended to other articles. Here are some examples to illustrate my point
- USA Bus stops (Merged) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HealthLine bus stops - These are regular bus stops for a BRT corridor. Editors voted for a merge to preserve the information. Contrast this with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ghim Moh Bus Terminal where 2 delete votes got the article deleted.
- Singapore (Asia) Bus terminals list (nominated for deletion) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus stations in Singapore - I created this article as per WP:ATD-M to try to save content about bus terminals (not bus stops) being deleted (See list of articles merge here). It was nominated for deletion in a few hours. However, similar list articles such as Bus depots of MTA Regional Bus Operations, List of bus stations in Wales, List of Greyhound Bus stations, List of Perth bus stations, List of bus and coach stations in London exist, despite many having much less references. I am also not particularly satisfied at the quality of the discussion. I wonder if editors are actually searching for sources.
- Bus station example (contrast discussion quality) See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornell Road (RTA Bus Rapid Transit stations) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lorong 1 Geylang Bus Terminal - Apart from higher participation, the discussion about the US bus stop was a lot more substantial. The same is not true for the article about an Asian bus stop where no one suggested a merge (everyone went for a delete).
- Road example (India and Canada) See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thadagam road and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakeshore Road. There was not much discussion or attempt to find sources, even though the road in the Indian city was quite an important road.
I would be happy to know if there is any way to address this. I understand that there are fewer editors from India and other Asian countries, which creates a problem. But I also feel editors could be a bit more aware and at least attempt to search for sources. I try hard to find references, and it is extremely discouraging if articles are going to be deleted simply because a number of editors vote delete (perhaps without attempting to search for sources). It takes a lot of time to find sources, add citations and copy-edit the articles. If Wikipedia will delete contributions so easily, I might as well not contribute.--DreamLinker (talk) 19:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)