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Thank you editors for bringing Signpost back![edit]

Wikipedia just wasn't the same without it. Jason Quinn (talk) 10:03, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, thank you to the Signpost volunteers for all of your hard work! Tdslk (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
+1 to that. Publishing the signpost is a huge amount of work and much appreciated. It brings us as a community closer together. It provides accountability within our movement. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Volunteers needed for next issue![edit]

It would be nice if the Signpost could get back into a regular schedule. This Friday will be two weeks since our last issue, but there's still plenty to be done before the next one can be published – writing, copyediting, or even just suggesting items we shouldn't be missing. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom#Article_status for what each draft article needs. - Evad37 [talk] 00:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Please discuss the next issue at the newsroom page
Evad37, I'd love to help but I have a few questions. Do you need an official position to contribute? What are best practices for copy-editing others' work? Is it a case of just editing the page or is there a more formal process, or expectation of discussion with original contributor or the relevant editor? What of attribution if a substantial edit needs to be made? —A L T E R C A R I   04:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
@Altercari: Thanks for asking these questions. Here are some answers that will hopefully help you and others; Montanabw might be able to provide further information. - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Do you need an official position to contribute? No, anyone can contribute. - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
What are best practices for copy-editing others' work? Pretty similar to WP:Basic copyediting and WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to, but just keep in mind the statement of purpose (i.e. these are news articles not encyclopedia articles), and that the Signpost has its own style guide. - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Is it a case of just editing the page or is there a more formal process, or expectation of discussion with original contributor or the relevant editor? In general you can be bold with copyediting, as long as you are careful not to change the meaning. If something is unclear or you're not sure about a particular edit, then discuss it with the original contributor, or with other editors at the newsroom. - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
What of attribution if a substantial edit needs to be made? For individual items (bullet points or paragraphs), you can assert authorship at the end of the piece. For more substantial contributions, you can add your name to the byline near the top of the article (in the {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Signpost-article-header-v2}} template) - Evad37 [talk] 06:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you—brilliantly helpful!! —A L T E R C A R I   07:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── All, I've been pitching in on featured content. What's the content cutoff date for this issue? Using "from May 21 through June 18" cutoff as listed at top of page. @Evad37: as you are the de facto editor in charge, I humbly recommend that you give us a deadline for cleaning up sections, then ruthlessly omit portions that aren't ready for publication this week. - Bri (talk) 02:35, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@Bri: Lets make the deadline 48 hours from now: 07:30 UTC on Friday (June 23rd). I think that should be enough time to make N&N, ITM, RR, Featured, Traffic, and Tech reports (possibly also the Wikicup report) publishable. There's also a proposed op-ed at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Submissions#Facto_Post that needs to be reviewed. - Evad37 [talk] 07:30, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, boss :) If my math is right, in the Pacific time zone, that deadline is shortly after midnight Thursday evening. - Bri (talk) 07:35, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that's right. I've added a link above for easy timezone conversion - Evad37 [talk] 07:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Also: do comments on submissions go right on the submissions page? - Bri (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that's probably best, so it all gets archived together (plus it is automatically transcluded to the newsroom) - Evad37 [talk] 07:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
WP:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Submissions#Facto Post has been reviewed and revised, recommend accepting it for this issue. - Bri (talk) 21:07, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@Evad37: Can you please give some specific suggestions as to what has to be done before we hit the deadline. Also, once the Signpost is back to normal running speed, I think that my work will become unnecessary and obsolete in the face of more experienced editors, so this is probably the last issue I will contribute to. It's been a blast, and thanks for all the experience. If you need my help again, just ping me or leave a message on my talk page. Bye. Eddie891 (talk) 17:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
@Eddie891: I've updated the article status section of the newsroom. And thanks for your help with this issue. Not sure if we will be back to (or approximating) normal by next issue, so if you want to stick around, even for just one section, that would be appreciated. - Evad37 [talk] 00:49, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@Evad37: Who am I kidding? I'm addicted to writing articles in The Signpost. I'll stay 'till someone kicks me out. Eddie891 (talk) 01:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Why is my submisson link not working?[edit]

I fixed a link on the Submissons page for my submisson but the original bad link still appears in the Main Newsroom.22mikpau (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

It probably needs to be purged from the page cache. See WP:PURGE. Bri (talk) 17:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Wandering talkpage[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Op-ed seems to be left over from the last edition ... I'm not sure what to do with it. Merge with Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2017-06-09/Op-ed maybe?? - Bri (talk) 22:51, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

@Bri: I think that is probably the thing to do. Alternatively you could just delete it. Eddie891 (talk) 00:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Comments moved. To prevent this sort of thing from happening again, I've been adding {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Use newsroom}} to draft articles' talk pages. - Evad37 [talk] 02:22, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

RSS problems[edit]

Thank you for bringing the RSS feed back; very nice. I am, however, getting multiple duplicates of every post—look like every single back post is pulled when a new post appears. Can someone look into that, please?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 26, 2017; 17:01 (UTC)

@Ezhiki: What URL are you using? It should be: http://tools.wmflabs.org/mediawiki-feeds/feed.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2F&category=Category%3AWikipedia+Signpost+RSS+feed&title=The+Signpost which seems to be working at the moment. Sam Wilson 23:44, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
That's the one. I'm not saying it's not working (it is); it's just that I'm getting duplicates whenever a new post is published. When the 6/23 edition came out, for example, my RSS client pulled an additional copy of every post all the way back to February (I'm subscribed to receive one item per story).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 27, 2017; 13:54 (UTC)
Any thoughts? Am I the only one experiencing this?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 7, 2017; 13:59 (UTC)
@Ezhiki: Is this still happening?
@Samwilson: Would editing of previous issues' pages (to add the next edition links) be changing the unique url identifies? - Evad37 [talk] 02:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
@Evad37: Yes indeed! :-( The permalinks are of the form <guid>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=790634432</guid> so change for every revision (the oldid is a revision ID). These should probably use curid (the page ID, which only changes if a page is moved). The trouble with that is that the feed content won't be updated if the guid doesn't change. It looks like the solution might be to set lastBuildDate to the revision date.... I'll look into this! Sorry about the badness, @Ezhiki. I've also recently added iCalendar support to mediawiki-feeds, but doing so has bumped the PHP version requirement to 7, so I'm thinking that's a silly thing to have done and shall look for an .ical library that doesn't do that. Thanks for reporting bugs! Sam Wilson 03:30, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

(The new version of mediawiki-feeds is usable at https://archives.org.au/feeds/ if anyone's interested.) Sam Wilson 03:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ezhiki and Evad37: I've updated it to use the full canonical URL for each page as the GUID, so the duplicate items problem should be fixed. The installation on Toolforge is updated (I removed the PHP7 requirement). Let me know if it works. Sam Wilson 09:03, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this! I did receive about 35 posts when the 7/15 issue came out; that included two copies of each 7/15 post and some duplicates and triplicates of posts dating as far back as 6/23. That was before the tweaks above, though. I'll keep an eye on it and will report here if the problem re-occurs when a new issue is out (in August?). Thanks again; your help is much appreciated!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 17, 2017; 13:32 (UTC)

Gallery posting for next issue[edit]

Greetings, I posted my first Gallery article and hope it is okay. I see there was a Gallery in the February 27 Signpost, so I'm hoping this Gallery can go next. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 15:40, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the gallery JoeHebda. I meant to respond sooner, but never got around to it (sorry for that). With the gallery articles, I think that ideally there should be some sort of link to other stories in that edition (e.g. to an item in Featured content report, or like the February gallery connection with the In The Media item) – but that doesn't have to be the case every time – something that just makes you smile or "to brighten your day" is also good to have on occasion Face-smile.svg - Evad37 [talk] 02:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)