User talk:Vogone

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Dan653 (talk) 15:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I believe you made a mistake on a page I edited earlier today. I may be wrong, if so, please explain why (Mrpieface45 (talk) 00:52, 19 May 2014 (UTC))[reply]

@Mrpieface45: Since neither you nor me edited any page today besides this one, I believe you are mistaken :-) Vogone (talk) 06:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations[edit]

Please do not accuse me of vandalism as you did here. I suggest that you read the policy carefully. - Sitush (talk) 14:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, this was a mistake. ;-) --Vogone (talk) 14:16, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source Code Editor[edit]

It's fairly clear you're using some sort of bot to make sure that whenever certain pages have large amounts of content removed they're automatically reverted, as you managed to make several reverts within seconds of the changes being made.

That's not okay. 203.97.127.101 (talk) 00:53, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't use any Bot reverting other user's edits. I might make mistakes anyway and it's absolutely okay if you mention them. Kind regards, Vogone (talk) 01:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you![edit]

Typical German stuff. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:58, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you :) Vogone (talk) 19:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another beer for you![edit]

Careful, have too many of these and you'll need a taxi to get home :-O Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Why did you take the CSD tags off Overwerk? The article creator keeps taking them off....William 17:40, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse[edit]

Glaisher [talk] 08:27, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT rights in x articles[edit]

Why did you revert all my edits in those articles? – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 20:04, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because I don't tolerate vandals who push their POV on topics they have strong opinions about. Vogone (talk) 20:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please abstain from using terms like “terrorism” or “propaganda” when writing about LGBT. Thank you, —DerHexer (Talk) 20:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How is adding public opinion to articles NPOV? – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 20:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about “terrorism” or “propaganda” which you added to these articles. These are NNPOV and should not be added. —DerHexer (Talk) 20:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I understand. I will stop using those phrases, even though they are true. I am talking about these edits,

amongst others. – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 20:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Common opinions can be presented in a neutral way, without a valuation. Using terms like terrorism and propaganda however is a cleary unneutral valuation. Besides, I feel ashamed to see a Christian being so intolerant towards people who merely have a different strain. This is certainly in no way Christian. Vogone (talk) 20:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, how would you put 'LGBT pride' in the article, without the liberal bias? But that was only 1 edit, which I am not complaining about. – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 20:36, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying it is disallowed to state critical views. It just should not happen with obviously negatively connotated vocabulary and a clear valuation, on both sides. This is why I don't think users with a very strong opinion should edit these articles at all. They will always give it an unneutral touch. Vogone (talk) 20:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't explained these edits:

– Plarem ^{(User talk)} 20:52, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An emotional reaction of me being ashamed of a few other edits by your account. Vogone (talk) 21:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well you shouldn't, because it was all referenced. – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 21:42, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Therefore, I think it will be suitable to give you a warning. This is not meant to be a hostile action, Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings#Introduction says: "The purpose of user warnings is to guide good-faith testers" – Plarem ^{(User talk)} 21:56, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you could also see it as collateral damage. I just made use of the "revert all recent edits by this user" button, in order to remove the vandalism you committed. Adding a ridiculous template hours after an action has been discussed is probably blatant trolling, but morally you seem to be out of place anyway. So I guess I'm done with this. Thanks. Vogone (talk) 22:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Mandatory notice[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

February 2017[edit]

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Free Democratic Party (Germany): you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 15:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Opinion polling for the French legislative election, 2017[edit]

Hi, I'm Boleyn. Vogone, thanks for creating Opinion polling for the French legislative election, 2017!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Please add sources asap. If the 'external links' are actually sources, please make this clear in the article.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Boleyn (talk) 20:12, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Boleyn: Excuse me, but I am not the author of the content of this page. I merely created a redirect which has been overwritten meanwhile. Kind regards, --Vogone (talk) 20:34, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Elections in Germany[edit]

Thanks, I've replied to your remark, on User talk:Corriebertus#2017 election in Germany. --Corriebertus (talk) 15:59, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2020[edit]

Hello! I'm Jeff6045. I recently notice that you have reverted my revision on Lithuanian Farmers and Greens Union. I'm concerning that you might have misunderstood my revision as 'unexplainable removal'. Please see the source that the ip user had added as a green politics. The source is describing that the party has been involved in Green/EFA group, no part of the source is describing the party as green. That is why I removed the reference that the ip user had added. I wish you could clear up a misunderstanding about my revision with this message. If you have any question about my revision on the article, feel free to ask any time. I'm always open to your opinion. Thank you! Jeff6045 ^{let's talk!} 01:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jeff6045: Thank you for providing a better reasoning for your action and better sources for the centre-right and green conservatism claims! The added source clearly stated that LVŽS is the third-most aligning party in the European parliament to what the Climate Action Network Europe defined as climate change-fighting activity. I believe there is good reason to incorporate this into the article, even if not as a source for green politics, but at least as a source for environmentalist politics in practice. Do you have a suggestion for a compromise on this matter? Also, I personally follow Lithuanian politics very closely and am confident I could provide you with a few (mostly Lithuanian language) sources that would claim a centre-left positioning of the party after sleeping a bit more (it is late for me :-)). In fact a centre-left positioning has been explicitly incorporated into the current government's working agreement. There appears to be a bit wider range of classifications in general. I am happy with the change you made to the introductory sentence, that appears to reflect the situation rather well, especially compared to the previous version. --Vogone (talk) 03:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vogone: Thank for your input. I'm very interested that the party could be specified as center left. I wish you could give some sources that could claim center-left positioning. If the sources are reliable enough, perosnally I think party's position should be defined as centre-right to centre-left like Basque Nationalist Party.
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Mind-bending riddle[edit]

Near a tree by a river there's a hole in the ground –T C N7JM 02:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Kovalyov/Kovalov[edit]

Hi, I see, that you wrongly redireced Kovalyov to Kovalov. In Ukrainian is written "Ковальов". It means, that in Romanization should to transliterate as "Kovalyov" or "Kovaliov" (are possible both variants), but not "Kovalov" (this variant, if in Ukrainian is written "Ковалов", without soft sign, "ь"). Also you can see other Ukrainian Kovalyovs': Anton Kovalyov and Serhiy Kovalyov--Noel baran (talk) 09:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Following which rule? The Ukrainian National transliteration, which is used in passports, is Kovalov at the very least. --Vogone (talk) 12:56, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serhiy Kovalyov follows another rule. You can already see that by looking at the first name, Serhiy vs. Oleksii. The -ii variant is National transliteration, -iy is not. --Vogone (talk) 12:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right regarding "ii", that was invented relatively recently (because still are passports with Serhiy, Andriy, Oleksiy, Matviy etc.). But regarding "Kovalov", I don't know. I didn't see his passport, but exists/existed rule, that when is coincidence of letters "ь" and "о", it will be romanize as "yo". For example, Польовий→Polyovyi (not "Polovyi"). Are you claim that now the different surnames Kovalyov and Kovalov are spelled the same?--Noel baran (talk) 14:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, if to check by: https://dmsu.gov.ua/services/transliteration.html. Here Kovalyov and Kovalov are spelling the same. Sorry for "wrongly", my fault--Noel baran (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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