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tWelcome!

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bibliomaniac15 04:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Even though you've been on Wikipedia for almost a year now, it's still nice to start off a talk page with a positive note.

Context, etc.[edit]

The Phillips–Perron test is a unit root test.

That opening sentence fails to tell the reader whether this is about agriculture, Catholic Church discipline, military tactics, chemistry, 6th-grade reading skills, etc. Please see my recent edits to that page. I started with this:

In statistics, the Phillips–Perron test is a unit root test.

Notice that I set the title phrase in bold. Things like these are codified in WP:MOS. Michael Hardy (talk) 07:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Rex Rammell[edit]

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Correct sexist vandalism[edit]

your reversal on Lingua franca‎ though i agree with it. I don't believe it was vandalism unless i missed something which is possible. depending on where a person is from father tongue maybe be the way people refer to there native language. its the same with the father/mother land issue depends on the country being referred to. so I believe it is likely this was a good faith edit.

Krj373 (talk) 05:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fair enough. thanks for the fast response.

Krj373 (talk) 19:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speakeasy[edit]

If you had taken a moment to read the discussion page you would have seen that I stated I was working on the page until April 15th as an English assignment. My last action to my assignment was to edit the copy I put into the article for proper sentence structure and spelling. I suppose since you decided to ignore my discussion request, I guess I can say thanks for doing my homework for me. Also, FYI just because you put a smiley face after your remarks does not make them any less snide. Have a nice day. Alley (talk) 06:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Dr Vince Cable[edit]

The official list of Cabinet ministers on the 10 Downing Street website (which was clearly cited on the page) explicitly identifies him as "Dr Vince Cable" – therefore, please could you revert this edit of yours? Thanks in advance. ╟─Treasury Tag►constablewick─╢ 16:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(The same page also identifies Liam Fox as "Dr." Please put the title back in front of both him and Cable accordingly, as per your edit-summary that I linked to above. Thanks.) ╟─Treasury Tag►hemicycle─╢ 16:35, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, just saw you fixed it! Ta! ╟─Treasury Tag►person of reasonable firmness─╢ 16:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your source of the information about Cable using the title "Dr", even though he's a PhD "outside academia". You could have just made the edit yourself, of course - but then I wouldn't have been alerted to the fact that there's one more pompous ass in the world. RomanSpa (talk) 16:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You could have read the sources listed on the page, of course...! Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. I'm not entirely sure what the last segment of your message is supposed to mean; please confirm as soon as possible that you were not calling me a pompous ass, otherwise I may need to ask for administrator attention (it would be a violation of our civility policy). ╟─Treasury Tag►directorate─╢ 16:52, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings and... reply[edit]

Greetings RomanSpa. Thanks for your note. I suppose you refer to the pages having been marked as patrolled (see Wikipedia:New pages patrol/patrolled pages and Special:NewPages), i.e., the "results" you refer to mean that they have been given the OK. If there had been anything "wrong", I would have taken the appropriate steps and you would have been informed accordingly.

As for improving them, they're fine, and only need expanding along the lines of other, similar articles. However, what you mention about there being several places called Sokoura ("In the Bambara language used in the south-west of Burkina Faso the name "Sokoura" can be translated as "New House" or perhaps "New Houses". That is, it's roughly equivalent to the English place name Newton ("new town").") seems interesting and could possibly be adapted and added. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 07:08, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for the information. --CultureEurope (talk) 23:12, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Response[edit]

Thank you for your honesty. I worked hard on these two pages of wikipedia. Hours and hours of research of the best sources... an exhausting job... An immense effort... Thank you. --CultureEurope (talk) 00:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks[edit]

Hi, I don't know if you're new to the Ref desks, but I only noticed you responding there recently. Thanks for your contributions, and I hope you will continue to give good, referenced answers! SemanticMantis (talk) 00:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the encouragement. I hope I've been doing OK so far. To be honest, I've just been answering Reference Desk questions for the last few days, as I needed a break from my terrible self-imposed task of correcting some egregious grammatical errors. I'm likely to be a sporadic rather than a full-time contributor to the Reference Desk. Please let me know if I make any mistakes, and don't hesitate to correct me immediately - I'm just an ordinary editor, so any guidance you can give me would be much appreciated. Thanks. RomanSpa (talk) 01:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As my father would say[edit]

Your anti-Floyd comments are about as funny as a rubber crutch. μηδείς (talk) 04:35, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They're not meant to be funny. They're a genuine statement of utter loathing. I hate the Beatles too. RomanSpa (talk) 11:14, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A propos of nothing in particular ...[edit]

I was re-reading User talk:JackofOz and was, once again, puzzled why some who knew what Stilton was would call it mold rather than mould. Would you care to put me out of my misery? If so, I'm sure I'd be eternally grateful. (Eternally.) Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:25, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My choice of spelling arose as a result of a sequence of comments made in answering a question on the Reference Desk:

<Medeis> Pink Floyd is sui generis, there's nothing they've done that has ever followed a mold--they have created genres, not adapted themselves to them. I Find RomanSpa's comments shocking. I suspect there are even people who deepfry live kittens. Floyd has no equal...

<RomanSpa> I'd rather deep-fry a stack of kittens than listen to Pink Floyd.

<JackofOz> Deep-fried mold sounds quite yummy, too.

At that point I passed on the idea of deep-fried blue cheese, and used the spelling "mold" simply because JackofOz had used it; he, of course, had used that spelling as a courtesy to the earlier editor, who I suppose is in a country that uses that spelling.

The conversation arose as part of this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Entertainment/2014_March_6#Pink_Floyd_being_classified_as_prog_rock

For clarity, I should note that although I would be quite prepared to deep-fry a stack of kittens rather than listen to Pink Floyd, I would probably prefer not to eat them, as I've been told that cats' meat doesn't taste particularly nice (though I might try a nibble just to check). I can, however, recommend deep-fried cheese in all its varieties. RomanSpa (talk) 15:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are too kind, RomanSpa. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:17, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Editing other's comments[edit]

Hey RomanSpa!

I saw you gave a good answer on the Reference Desk about funding for referendums, but in doing so you struck out part of Dalliance's comment. You explicitly acknowledge this underneath, and explain why you did it, but editing other's comments is kind of a hot-button issue on the Reference Desks, and the only way we've successfully dealt with it is to never edit another's comment, unless it is to fix some formatting issues or delete the comment.

The reason it was such an issue is probably the same reason you thought it would be okay: there is a tension between viewing the answers we give as mini-articles, wikiedited, and viewing the page as more of a talk page. In the end, most people seem to view the Desks as more like talk pages, which is why we sign our answers: editing another's comments is therefore generally considered a problem, since their signature gets attached to something they did not write.

With your response, there was no need to strike that part of Dalliance's comment: you explain why it is mistaken, just below. Dalliance might have struck that part himself in response to your comment, and it would even be okay to ask him to do so on his talk page.

I hope this is helpful: there are so many conventions and social rules that communities build up, and I'd like to avoid you being scared off by people getting cross over a well-meaning edit. 86.146.28.229 (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind comment. I've left a fuller reply to this on your talk page. RomanSpa (talk) 20:23, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again! It's the hidden archive template. "Hatting" on the desks is actually something that I, for better or worse, kind of got started years ago as a sop to fragile egos. It's basically used for when something should, by all rights, be deleted, but doing so would cause too much drama because "my contribution". It can also be used as a way of signalling clearly that nobody should answer a particular question, because some users cannot be trusted to leave it alone, without deleting the question and confusing the probably-newbie who asked it. It's a use of the {{hat}} and {{hab}} templates, like so:

archived jingoism. 86.146.28.229 (talk) 21:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
America is great and you're all just jealous. Why don't you all speak American?

Don't let this keep you from checking out the desks, from time to time, even if you feel the need for a break right now. They have their ups and their downs, and at their best (when people take time to only answer questions they can answer well, and give references) they can be amazing. There was a bright period a few years ago, when a particular regular contributor flounced for another project and all was calm and lovely. They came back, as the desks were irresistible. We've acquired a few new regulars since then, some of whom have still not been fully assimilated. If you only check the desks every week or less frequently, and focus only on addressing the question-asker and not anyone else, and only reply to questions that you can answer well, they can be relaxing and fun even when the regulars are exploding. I wouldn't want to lose you.

And if you try your best to direct people to Wikipedia articles where possible, and locate the missing or inaccurate information when the article doesn't answer their question, before you know it you've started substantially improving articles and adding content to the encyclopedia, which is what the desks used to be so good at. That's part of why we settled on a model for the desks that wasn't "write one good answer between us" or "create an FAQ": if we're essentially writing a mini-article, shouldn't we instead be putting that into the actual article to permanently add to the encyclopedia? It's much more fun to improve the encyclopedia that way, I find, and very productive ;)

86.146.28.229 (talk) 21:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank makes sense. Thanks for your good advice! RomanSpa (talk) 06:35, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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To gift[edit]

Hi RomanSpa, I notice you seem to be making systematic changes of text using the verb "to gift", changing it to "to give". In some of these instances this may be a more suitable term but in others I would question the change, the sense "to give as a gift" not being entirely synonymous with simply "to give", e.g. there may be the implication of a formal bequest. Simple "giving" may be done indifferently or actively reluctantly. One may make the assumption in these articles that an entity was given as a gift but to state that it was gifted removes any ambiguity. At the least, I don't regard it as a minor change. All the best, Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of Soccer Players[edit]

Hi. I noticed your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Armin Hodžić (2nd nomination). Please let me know if you decide to seek a change to WP:NSOCCER; I'm certainly in favour of a slight relaxation of our criteria (though it would have to be phrased very carefully to avoid a cascade of non-notables). Thanks. RomanSpa (talk) 07:26, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll let you know, but I'm certainly not planning anything at this time. I expect that if I was the flag-bearer for such a proposal, that I've stepped on enough toes, that it would hurt the proposal, which wouldn't be judged on it's own merits. Yes, it would have to be phrased carefully. I'm not quite sure how you'd do it ... I'd think any player in the top league in any non-microstate country where football is the top sport should be there. But that leaves out Ireland. And how do you deal with Wales? Nfitz (talk) 00:23, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Hi. I thank you for writing on talk page of Article created by me Misuse of women laws in India that it is notable. I have also improved it and please visit again and guide me for removal of template of multiple issues as I have enriched it with rich references, Please visit talk page of the Article. Rajsector3 (talk) 16:52, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris watson[edit]

I've moved the page to Chris Watson (Texas musician), since both Chris Watson and Chris Watson (musician) were already occupied. Feel free to move again if you can find a better MoS-acceptable title. Since the speedy is contested, I've AfDed, thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:14, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Malik Ata Muhammad Khan[edit]

Hi RomanSpa Hope you are well and happy.Thanks for taking interest in the topic and also for the chance you have given me to clear the issue. It is confirmed that Malik Ata got Law degree from Oxford as i asked himself also his class fellows told me too but i had forgotten to ask the college as well. I am planning to go to see him soon and will discuss it to him and find the whole info. yes i know that Oxford doesnt give the LLB degree. There are 3 types of law courses that they provide. The first two courses leads to BA degree in Jurisprudence and Law studies in Europe that degrees functions like the LLB awarded by other Universities thatswhy i wrote LLB at first as our people may confuse to read the BA as in Pakistan BA leads to the graduation degree after the intermediate classes and then we can take admission in a 3 year law course but on your advice i changed it to the actual name. regards --Malik Amin (talk) 08:45, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Good work bringing AHLM13's reversions to light. NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:41, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request to remove the redirect template[edit]

I request that the page has been redirected to the another page named Men's rights movement in Indiawhich is totally different and totally discouraging the creator/ editor of the page who has have spent hours on developing the same. Please revert and allow it to develop and grow as it is open for the world to give it shape as it was supposed to, when it was created. You RomanSpa had marked it as a notable topic as the laws are being misused and only victims know its seriousness.Rajsector3 (talk) 07:11, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly the article as it stood was not very helpful, and had the hallmarks of being at least 50% personal essay

That statement is wrong on so many levels: the very TITLE is POV garbage and the very first (borderline incoherent) sentence drives the point home -- look up the term Begging the question.

The redirect was a temporary solution: what needs to happen is that the redirect itself should be deleted, with prejudice, as a POV bit of nonsense. --Calton | Talk 12:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Freopedia[edit]

FWIW, I agree with you about 'process issues' on AfD pages, I only put my comment like I did (and intentionally unbulleted it to separate it from the discussion) because there had started to be multiple long threads all throughout discussing the nominator rather than the article, and I thought it made sense to put it in a central location the arguing people were watching rather than all over a bunch of talk pages (and having new people still continue the argument about it there). It seemed to me like people were trying to argue to keep the article by discrediting the OP, (and saying he should be checkusered so they could identify the IP he was previously using) and so a 'rebuttal' specifically of that in the same location seemed reasonable to me. Revent^talk 04:06, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Revent:: Fair enough. RomanSpa (talk) 08:07, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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... for the barnstar. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 11:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@JackofOz:You're welcome! RomanSpa (talk) 11:23, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Compliment much appreciated[edit]

Many thanks for your Biology Barnstar. There is a long way to go, but encouragement en route is very welcome! :) JonRichfield (talk) 11:20, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@JonRichfield:You're welcome! RomanSpa (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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List of creatures in Primeval[edit]

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Stratigraphic unit stubs[edit]

Thanks for the barnstar! Abyssal (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Abyssal:It's always good to see an editor who's making a positive contribution! RomanSpa (talk) 10:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

see here im leaving heres why[edit]

Wikipedia:Requests for Permissions/Autopatrolled --the guy whos leaving

my number of created pages[edit]

I went to the list of wikipedians by article count. it said i only have 425 created pages, not 471. were they deleted recently?--Old Time Music Fan (talk) 23:09, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Old Time Music Fan: I don't think so. It's more likely that the list you looked at is running a bit slow - when I looked at it just now it hadn't been updated since late June. I got my figure of 471 (now 486) by looking at the bottom of your contributions page, where you'll see there are a number of tools. I tend to use the "edit count" and "articles created" tools there when I'm looking at an editor's contributions, because I suspect they're more up-to-date than the big lists, which are created weekly or even less frequently. RomanSpa (talk) 08:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ok

Malik Ata Muhammad Khan[edit]

Hi RomanSpa..thanks. yes i could not go to see Malik Ata as i was busy with some household issues and there is very hot weather in Pakistan since last three months and more last month was Ramadan and i was closing fast so it was difficult to travel in such a harsh weather.. I will arrange in next few days and will inform you here..thanks .. and Malik Ata belongs to a royal family and they have been ruling over that area since Alexander The Great as his grand father was General in his army. They still have a wast state there having 84 villages. He is the current chief of Kot Fateh Khan state but unfortunately there is no such material available on internet about it. The website www.kotfatehkhan.pk/ is not maintained by Malik Ata . It is made by somebody else. thanks for your kindness. have a good day. regards--Malik Amin (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

edit summary and minor edit[edit]

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) Media Viewer RfC[edit]

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Thomas Kinkaide[edit]

Hi there. If Thomas were much more in the public eye, the ammount of flack his artcile would have gotten would have been enormous. In my time on wikipedia, there are MANY celebrities who have done ample things that are negative, but consensus usually either brushes it to the side or dismisses it as an unneccseary embelishment of the article. The article is beyond rediculous to actually list his negative episodes as though its unbiased and an essential part of the article. I'm sorry but I sincerely disagree with you. However I will not edit teh page any further. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingslove2013 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The content is appropriate since it was such a conflict with the life he professed to live and his promoters wanted the public to believe he lived. None of the negative behavior he exhibited away from the public eye took away from his talent, but it sure did paint him in a different light (puns intended) than what we were led to believe about him. There are reliable references attached to the content, it really did happen and he really did live and behave contrary to his promoted, public image. Which, in the end, affected his sales as a painter and reputation as a Christian - both things were used by him and his handlers to make his living. That's what makes it encyclopedic, not the sensationalistic tone of the subject itself, but the fact that he was marketed one way but lived in another, Kingslove2013. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 05:10, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I can respect your argument in that context then. Thanks for explaining. Kingslove2013 (talk) 12:12, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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	Thank you for your explaination regarding the Thomas Kinkaide article. Best to you. Kingslove2013 (talk) 12:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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