Talk:Russo-Japanese War

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Great work so far[edit]

G'day, Great work so far on developing this article to this point. As it has been nominated for GA, I just wanted to point out that the expectation is that everything in the article needs to be cited to reliable sources. There are a number of uncited paragraphs and sentences at this stage. I would normally quickfail an article with missing citations, as would many other reviewers, so I suggest getting on to those things soonish. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:17, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

"Sino-Russian War"[edit]

@Coltsfan: "Sino-Russian War" apparently redirects to "Sino-Japanese War," but I still don't know if this name is accurate. Can you explain why you redirected it here? Jarble (talk) 05:53, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't even remember that. Must have been a mistake or something, i don't know. All i know is incorrect. Coltsfan (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

a personnel section?[edit]

Numerous commanders and political leaders that were active later in ww1, ww2 and the Russian Civil War were active participants. Paul von Rennenkampf, Alexander Samsonov, Alexander Kolchak and Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim were only some examples. Shall a section for such personnel be added? Their contributions were not significant in terms of theater or battle size commands, though. -- Ktsquare (talk) 13:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Montenegro AGAIN![edit]

In 2014 there was a long discussion of whether or not Montenegro was a combatant country in the war, which concluded on the fact that evidence of a declaration of war by Montenegro is flimsy, at best. That there were Montenegrin volunteers in the war means nothing. I believe that there were English, American and Canadian participants too, but that would give no grounds for including their countries as parties to the war. The rule on WP is that there must be reliable sources to support assertions. In addition, since there is nothing in the body of the article about Montenegrin participation, it makes no sense at all to include that country in the Info box. Consensus so far seems to be against its inclusion and its appearance there from now on should be deleted on the grounds that it is against consensus (and not reversed until there is reliable enough evidence to warrant a mention of Montenegro in the main article). Sweetpool50 (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


Do someone know the meaning of inserting references like this ones <ref>{{cite web|url=397|title=INSERT TITLE|last=Esthus|first=p}}</ref>, which shows up on page as "Esthus, p. [397 "INSERT TITLE"] Check |url= value (help)."? I would like to remove them, or at least to comment them out. Carlotm (talk) 20:03, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

If it's a botched short note of "Esthus, Raymond (1981). "Nicholas II and the Russo-Japanese War". Russian Review. 40 (4)", and other similar refs, the situation can be easily adjusted. Carlotm (talk) 20:12, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Carlotm: I fixed them so they don't appear broken. They still need to be migrated to use the {{sfn}} template. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:39, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@Nihonjoe:. Thanks. I did already the migration. Carlotm (talk) 22:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
@Carlotm: Awesome. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 02:17, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

References - 2[edit]

There are three children notes about "Schimmelpenninck van der Oye", but their mother is nowhere to be found. Is someone able to help? Carlotm (talk) 06:33, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I would hazard a guess that, Toward the Rising Sun: Russian Ideologies of Empire and the Path to War with Japan, by David Schimmelpenninck van der Oye, Northern Illinois University Press, 2006,[1] is the book in question, however I have no way of verifying the references listed for the book. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I found an article on The Russian Review Vol. 67-1 (January 2008), pp. 78-87: "Rewriting the Russo-Japanese War: A Centenary Retrospective".Carlotm (talk) 09:09, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
@Kansas Bear: maybe I found the mother, at note 47: Schmmelpenninck van der Oye, David (2005). "The Immediate Origins of the War". In Wolff, David. The Russo-Japanese War in Global Perspective: World War Zero. Leiden, Boston: Brill. p. 42. 
Because of a misspelling I overlooked it. What do you think? Carlotm (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
That's likely it. Feel free to verify and normalize the spelling for all of them. Thanks for all your recent edits ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 01:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
OK. I'll try. Carlotm (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

References - 3[edit]

Can somebody check the legitimacy of citation in note 105, which refers to: Heale, M.J. (April 2009). "Anatomy of a Scare: Yellow Peril Politics in America, 1980–1993". Journal of American Studies. Ronald Reagan has nothing to do with this page's topic, unless there is a precise reference to it, which I am unable to ascertain.Carlotm (talk) 21:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC) The above note 105 is now note 101. Carlotm (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC) That note is now note 99.Carlotm (talk) 06:34, 21 January 2018 (UTC)