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Added a hair colouring section

OttawaAC (talk) 21:00, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

About the hair part...

In theory, or hypothetical if you prefer, can henna be used in their powder and/or leaf form as hair dye or must they be used with a special substance? --- Hackeru

Henna must be mixed into a paste to dye hair. Water or a mild acid such as tea, fuit juice or vinegar can be used. Mehndijen (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

I have repeated removed some information that relates only a specific brand name commercial product. The photo of a block of henna is also a specific commercial product and should be removed as well. Mehndijen (talk) 15:05, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Henna and Mehndi Merge

The Henna and Mehndi articles are currently merged, as discussing these separately leads to two short articles with redundant content. Should a more expansive cultural exploration of mehndi be provided, the articles may need to be split. For purposes of readability this seems the best current solution. Metaeducation 18:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Henna : Also a natual dye for textile

Henna is also a natural Dye for textiles. But because it is used for body and hair coloring its importance as a natural dye for textiles has been ignored

Article Organization and Cites

This article has a lot of very interesting information but it's not well organized and in many cases could use some citations. Before I jump in and start making major edits I want to talk about it a little bit. Is anyone else working on this page actively? Is there any history of discussions I should know about? Is this page your "baby"? Let's talk about fixing it. Or if no one else cares I'll just go for it.

Vowofsilence 21:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

This page contradicts itself regarding the US FDA and the regulation of henna, or "black henna." It states at one point that henna is illegal for use as body art in the US, but then says that "black henna" is illegal because of the chemicals it contains. Please clear this up, because I know henna kits are sold in the US, whether or not it's real henna, I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kristopherandkimberly (talk • contribs) 04:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That isn't contradictory. You must understand, "black henna" is not actually henna, it's PPD. Henna is technically illegal for use as body art, but people do it anyways, and the law is rarely enforced. Since the same powder is used for hair dye and body art (generally), it's easy to come by some powder for body art. As to whether the kits you speak of are real henna, it's very possible, but hard to tell; there could be other things in there besides the henna. Be careful. 66.136.151.79 (talk) 20:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Henna vs Mehndi

Small technicality, but surely Henna should redirect to Mehndi and not the other way around, giving that the use of the second by the combined populations of S. Asia far otweighs the usage of the first. Sfacets 16:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

... Actually, though this is a common perception, that is not the case. All of North and East Africa have strong henna traditions, as do the Levant, Iran, the Arabian Peninsula, and Malaysia. The African, Levantine and Arab henna traditions are also far older. The perception that South Asia is primary and dominant in henna is a misconception driven by Indian dominance media and diasporas. Really. Honest. I spent hundreds of hours in the British Library piecing that together. Mehndi is also not "the preparation of the plant." In Hindi speaking regions, the plant and art are both Mehndi. In Arab speaking regions, the plant and art are both henna. In crossover regions, where Muslims dominate commerce and production and Hindus may be purchasers, there is a perception through packaging that the plant is henna and the art is mehndi, but this is only because of a border anomoly in economic linguistics. 1hennaphd 17:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

It seems to me that Mehndi is a particular preparation of the henna plant, so henna is the more general term and it makes sense for it to be an umbrella term. But it looks like the Mehndi page is back despite the comment from October that they are merged. Are you getting a redirect? I don't see a problem with them being separate articles. Mehndi art surely deserves its own page, since it has such a big scope and history. And I'm seeing a lot of anonymous edits lately adding all kinds of uses for henna that are very different from Mehndi. It seems to me that this could be the general page about the various uses of the henna page and link to Mehndi which is a specific use of the plant.

But this page needs some serious organizing and editing for clarity. Which I am working on little by little.

Vowofsilence 21:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I suggest you contact Catherine Cartwright-Jones, who runs hennapage.com. She's a doctoral student in cultural geography, working on her PhD studying geographical patterns of henna cultivation and use. She's done extensive research in language, literature and iconography related to henna and though she's always avoided getting directly involved in editing at Wikipedia, she would probably be willing to advise you as you work on the henna article.

49oxen 19:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Of the nations across Africa, the Arabian Peninsula, the Levant, South Asia and Malaysia, the word henna is the dominant word for the plant and art ... "henna" being carried by the Arab language. In India, there are over 20 different transliterations for different words for "henna" in the different languages of the subcontinent, and this fragments the potential for the use of "mehndi" (mehandi, mehedi, mehendi, etc) Therefore, I believe "henna" should be the dominant article, by grace of widest useage. Some of the languages of India have a word for henna that is plausibly translated to "mehndi" , but there are many others. I believe the greatest useage is considered the primary useage. "Henna", then would be primary, by virtue of the greatest number of countries and languages.

If it were to be my decision, I would place "mehndi" as the relatively narrow definition of henna use in Hindi-speaking India. 1hennaphd 07:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

External link cleanup

This article is attracting all forms of commercial links which goes against WP:EL guidelines. Specifically links promoting products and services and links with excessive advertising. WP is not a directory of links (WP:NOT) nor is it a medium to promote a website or commercial project. Please discuss any link additions here before adding. Thanks! Calltech 20:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like to contribute to this article, and have linked to the articles I have written on henna as part of my PhD research. I am not linking to anything commercial. There are few other web-based resources that are as focused on topic. These articles are reviewed by my profs, and are fully referenced. Perhaps you might read the links before you delete them?

• I just reviewed all of your recent edits and noticed you removed the links to your website on your last one. Please accept my apology for not seeing this before I reverted them and thanks again for your contributions and for removing your links on your own. I reverted my own revert to the last version that you edited. Please sign your comments using 4 tildes (~). Calltech 13:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

````worked on the article a bit. I'll work more soon.

• You added links back to your website again. Please stop this process of website promotion. I'm placing another warning message on your new User page also. WP is not a medium to promote your website and adding these 7 links is link spamming. Calltech 10:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

````This is not a commercial website. This is not promotion of a website. These are links to articles with scholarly referencing. they happen to be on the same website, but that website was recommended by wikiverse as a reliable source of information, and this information is not available anywhere else. I AM doing my Phd on henna, and this is not promotion. This is providing credible, referenced source material.

Adding multiple links to your own website (whether commercial or not) is link spamming WP:EL and conflict of interest WP:COI. Please review these guidelines. Also, please use 4 tildes (~) as a signature for your comments. Calltech 15:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

What is the website in question? Sfacets 14:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• hennapage.com. In the article history, you'll see multiple link edits made first by user user talk:69.81.131.191 and now by User Talk:1hennaphd, the same user. User has been continuously tagging multiple keywords in the article with links to her website. Calltech 15:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

````I did not intend to spam, only to link to reference articles. It this is not acceptable, I will continue to edit the article, but will not link to additional reference material.

I don't see why the link cannot be used as an external link, it appears to be a good resource on the matter, and if 1hennaphd is indeed a phd student, then it is all the more relevant. (the website has also received a considerable amount of trffic) I understand the concerns surrounding WP:COI and WP:EL links, therefore I am re-adding the link in the external section on behalf of 1hennaphd... Sfacets 16:54, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

````If you wish to verify that I am working on PhD on henna, you may contact Kent State University. I am registered there in the Geography department. If you wish to review my master's thesis on henna, it is at http://www.hennapage.com/henna/encyclopedia/mastersessay/index.html

I will await your final judgement to linking to articles. I will not link until I have your say-so. If you permit me to link I will continue to link only to articles which have scholarly referencing pertinent to the topic (such as maps, history, botany, summaries of medical articles and chemistry as I have done aready, but which were deleted and considered spam), have no commercial content, and promote no artist. I believe the article would not serve the readers as well if I could not link to extended, supporting material.

• Thanks for your cooperation. User:Sfacets has added your link to the external links section and you should continue to refrain from adding links to your own site which is the basis for WP:COI (conflict of interest). WP recommends that you discuss any potential links to your website first on the talk page and let another impartial editor review it and make the addition as User:Sfacets did. As an aside, you are continuing to use 4 single quotes as your signature rather than the 4 tildes (~). Also sign at the end of your comment, not the beginning. Calltech 17:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I invite the anonymous editor to share his comments here instead of repeatedly vandalizing the article. Sfacets 01:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I support external links to ONLY pages which do not serve to promote an artist or products. If a website has scholarly, substantive information, that's very different. I will continue to do my best to tighten up the henna article without including external links. I would like to add articles to wikipedia on lawsone, night of the henna, camphire, perhaps some others, if you think this would be useful. If you find this acceptable, I will find the time to do so.

If you want to check my qualifications to do these articles, here's my CV: http://www.tapdancinglizard.com/biblos/CVhenna.pdf

If you think links to academic PDF's can be included (even if they're hosted on the same site), I propose listing http://www.hennapage.com/henna/encyclopedia/mastersessay/geoapproachtohenna.zip http://www.hennapage.com/henna/what/freebooks/hinduwedding2.pdf http://www.hennapage.com/henna/what/freebooks/HPJpp2.pdf http://www.tapdancinglizard.com/biblos/significanceofhenna1/sighenna.pdf http://www.hennapage.com/henna/encyclopedia/id/idhenna.zip http://www.hennapage.com/henna/ppd/bigbrochv.pdf (this is translated into several languages, if that's helpful, see:http://www.hennapage.com/henna/ppd/infopak.html)

All of these articles have had academic review, are fully referenced, are non commercial (unless I've overlooked something), and do not promote any artist's services. If you're willing to put external links to these, they may serve your readers well. I'm not going to put these links up without your say-so. 1hennaphd 07:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Can you recommend ways to source the article (which I would be very happy to do) which meet with your guidelines? I don't want to cause a problem with external links, but I'm having difficulty finding authoritative, accessible articles other than my own. My sources are academic papers which I can't link directly to ... 1hennaphd 01:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

You don't necessarily need to link to them, merely providing the reference (author, publication, date etc) is enough. Sfacets 01:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I did a "short list" of references. Please advise .......... 1hennaphd 01:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm it would be better to add them between <ref> </ref> tags at the end of statements that require sourcing - and provide page numbers this will add them automatically to the bottom of the article in an ordered list - as they are now it is impossible to tell what they are referencing. Sfacets 02:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. I'll do a few this evening, and if you approve the way they come out, I'll do the rest tomorrow.

ahhhhhhhhhh now I see what its doing (some confusion there at first). I'll finish up the referencing tomorrow.1hennaphd 02:52, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I have done a fair amount of referencing, but I appear to have failed at whatever it takes to "add them automatically to the bottom of the article in an ordered list" . Can you advise me on the proper way to correct this? 1hennaphd 19:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I found the footnote problem and fixed it. If you approve of the referencing, I request the "This article or section does not cite its references or sources." be removed. I can add more references, and can include page numbers when possible, if you wish. I also request you remove the "spam" warning from my identity, as this was a simple misunderstanding, and not intended as spam. 1hennaphd 03:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I added a second "in article" external link to the current FDA law on henna in the USA. I believe it is crucial that people know precisely what the legal standing of henna is in the US, and be directed to the most recent official statement. It is the unfortunate truth that it is illegal to use henna as body art in the USA, and I believe it would be irresponsible (and might leave Wiki or myself legally culpable) to not have that external link front and center in the article. I hope you do not consider this link to current law spamming ........ I do this because I believe it is necessary for any aspiring henna artist in the US to be aware of their legal situation, and perhaps people reading this might be moved to do something about this outdated regulation. If this internal link is a problem, i can shift it to lower on the page, but ... I feel it merits inclusion. 1hennaphd 06:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

FWIW, I'm finding all of this info extremely helpful. Thanks for lending your expertise! 216.52.69.217 15:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I added some comments to the links. This whole issue around henna is very difficult to navigate because of so much misbranding. The hennapage.com was linked, and it is a useful resource, but I think it must be annotated with some note of caution because of its affiliation with several dealer sites all based off the same physical address in Ohio according to Whois. I find it extremely difficult as a consumer to source a good henna and indigo product because of so much misbranding and cheating that's going on both in India and with Importers in the U.S. That's why I added another link to a page that has a henna recipe and talks about methods for making henna appear fresh when it is no. Gschadow 15:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

The "henna" article is fully sourced from solid material that can be accessed and reviewed by anyone. The article makes no commercial solicitation, mentions no brand names or names of any distributors or producers, and there is no commercial solicitation on the Henna Page, so why do you feel there's any need for "caution?" Why do you believe that the ownership of the Henna Page, a non-commercial and free site which you yourself acknowledge is an information resource site, should have any bearing on where you buy your henna?

Instead of adding insinuation and innuendo to the article and calling it "disclosure," you might have taken time to contact the owner of the Henna Page to express your concerns, but you've chosen to make baseless suggestions on this page about "mislabeling" and "cheating" when you present no facts to support those claims.

The Henna Page, Mehandi.com and TapDancingLizard.com are indeed owned by TapDancing Lizard LLC. The Henna Page has no income stream of its own, except for a few advertisements for artists and suppliers, all of whom are independent operators with their own sources on the world henna market. Income from the two commercial sites owned by TapDancing Lizard LLC is used to pay for the upkeep of the Henna Page. The server bill for the Henna Page is over US$400.00 a month. Where would that money come from if not from a supporting business? The fact that the Henna Page is supported by a henna-related business is a matter of public record and widely known among people involved in henna. Supporting a free-of-charge information site from the income of a related business is not an unusual practise, so why do you feel that there's any need for editorializing in the links section of the article in the name of "disclosure?" Nothing has been hidden, so what is it that you believe needs to be "disclosed?"

If you've had problems in the past with some henna dealers, you should take up your concerns with them directly, rather than using Wikipedia to make broad, unfounded and potentially libelous remarks.49oxen 17:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yours is a conflict of interest, not "baseless suggestions", the Whois record that I refer to establish the fact. I suggest the link be removed altogether as others have suggested before because of WP:EL. The fact you are using multiple domain names to make you site appear to be a consortium, and the fact that you seem to be operating under 3 different Wiki names as Calltech has mentioned above, and your whole hostile reaction right here casts a lot of doubt about your neutrality. Don't get me wrong, I want to believe, I want to be your customer too, but the subject is so very muddled with all those misrepresentations that I guess I am paranoid. Now that the talk page has the record of [my edit] for the record, I will rest my case. Gschadow 20:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You have to make a case before you can "rest" it.

You have once again jumped to unwarranted and entirely incorrect conclusions. You've asked no pertinent questions of anyone involved in the Henna Page. All you've done is make assumptions without bothering to get the facts. Have you contacted the owner of the Henna Page to ask about how and why the sites are organized as they are? You're suggesting that the domain names are part of some sort of subterfuge. Exactly what do you think the owner is trying to hide? You've assumed that I am the owner. You're completely wrong about that. I don't own the Henna Page or either of the businesses that support it, so I don't care where you buy your henna. Moreover, I don't believe your inability to find a dealer you trust is in any way relevant to the Wikipedia article on henna. If you have questions about buying henna, shouldn't you be discussing them with someone who sells henna and not making a public issue of the fact that you're "paranoid" on this page where there's no way anyone can assist you with what appears to be your real concern?

You're assuming that I or someone associated with the Henna Page is posting under multiple names but you don't state any fact to prove your accusation. Don't bother, because I know for a fact that you're wrong. You've clearly done no research or investigation.

If you want to make public accusations about "mislabeling," "cheating," and "conflict of interest," shouldn't you first investigate so you're sure you're on firm ground? I would have started by talking to the owner of the Henna Page, which you clearly haven't done and which is why nearly every statement you've made here has been demonstrably wrong. The owner's e-mail address and phone number are posted in plain view on the sites, so you wouldn't have had any difficulty making contact if you had cared to do so. You're accusing me of being "hostile," but all I've done is ask pointed questions that you can't answer because you have no idea what you're talking about. 49oxen 10:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Relax, chill, get a life. For someone so very unaffiliated with the hennapage like you (whilst knowing about the details of the server bill), you're spending too much time arguing. You wasted one and a half hours of your precious life arguing against the baseless accusations of a moron like me. I can rest when and whatsoever I want, including this case. Best of luck. Gschadow 04:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

From someone whose in the industry from the late nineties, I believe that the largest contributor of the henna page is its owner masked behind some computer geek dude in England. I believe that lady is using everything and everyone to get to her very own greedy results. a consortium of sites to make sales while claiming she's doing a PhD in henna! the whole thing smells like a strategized scam. if you should know the first thing about henna is that it lasted for centuries and no-one could ever "own" it. people have tried to associate their name to this plant and its usage but no one ever succeeded. even writing a million articles won't get your f***ing name attached to the joy of henna. i would like the article on henna to have no links whatsoever since there is so much battle over who should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousufi (talk • contribs) 18:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

The question of external links added to this article was discussed in considerable detail two years ago. You can read the comments above. However, your comments make it clear that you have a personal agenda based on some animosity toward the owner(s) of Hennapage.com. This has no bearing on the validity of the information available at that site, in this article or anyplace else on the Web. You should handle your personal problems in a private venue rather than starting an "edit war" on Wikipedia. 49oxen (talk) 11:32, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above poster: hennapage.com is bad about spamming and leaving fake reviews on other sites. You should keep the off this Wiki page because readers like myself just want to find out about the plant, not be conned into buying someones products. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.218.162.128 (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Unless you can support your claims of "spamming" and "leaving fake reviews on other sites" with independently verifiable facts, it's unwise of you to be posting them on a publicly viewable site. It's also inappropriate for you to use Wikipedia as a platform for the anonymous airing of your private grievances.49oxen (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

application of dye

In the Mehndi page, it says that the paste is usually applied to the skin and feet because they have higher levels of keratin, resulting in a more visible color, but in this article, it just says because the skin is thicker there. I dunno anything about biology so are these two supposed to mean the same thing? And if not, why? Dan Guan 01:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Answer: Specifically: Palm and sole skin is more keratinized (usually), and there are more layers of stratum corneum on the palm and sole (always). Lawsone binds with proteins in the skin cell membrane. When there are more skin cell membranes stacked up(more layers in the stratum corneum) and they are more dessicated (a higher proportion of keratin to lipid) you get a darker stain. 1hennaphd 19:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Additives & Adulterants

Pre-mixed henna body art pastes may have ingredients added to darken stain, or to alter stain color. The FDA considers these to be adulterants and therefore illegal for use on skin.[citation needed] Some pastes have been found to include: silver nitrate, carmine, pyrogallol, disperse orange dye, and chromium. These have been found to cause allergic reactions, chronic inflammatory reactions, or late-onset allergic reactions to hairdressing products and textile dyes.

Are all these additives adulterants? Carmine, for example, is permanently approved by the FDA for use in cosmetics [[1]], and has been used as such for centuries. This section should be specific about which additives cause which reactions. Also, it is US-centric. Regulations of other countries where henna is widely used should be cited. Dforest (talk) 22:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Does this include all additives? I mean some people add cola to their mixes, or tea. --71.219.120.11 (Barbed Lotus ) 19:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Intro Section

The introduction is hard to read, and sounds like it was ripped from a botany textbook. It should be moved to another section, and a better overview should be written to serve in its place. ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.214.44.98 (talk) 18:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup needed

The article is rather repetitive and disorganized. I worked on one section, the rest need work too. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 08:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Consider splitting article, skin dye from plant

That's because the article is different from other plant articles. Just an opinion. JB50000 (talk) 04:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

External Links

I have re-read WP:EL and cannot find any documentation process for "Verifying" an External link. I am therefore mystified at the removal of the link to Hennatribe (www.hennatribe.com) - the community is non-commercial in the same way that Henna page is, has published research in the name of the community (e.g. http://www.henna-und-mehr.de/pdf/hennalemonqxt.pdf) and free resources. Although probably smaller than Henna Page, it is one of the predominant resources/communities for Henna artists in the western world. The large number of professional artists there would ensure that inaccurate advice (via forums) is quickly corrected, and only administrators can manage the resource pages. There is an element of rivalry between Henna Page and Hennatribe, so to list only one smells of bias. dramatic (talk) 07:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Forgive me for not taking the time to discuss your comments properly. If you look back to the discussions about four years ago, when Wikipedia user 1hennaphd began an extensive rewrite of this article, you will see that there was some discussion about including links in the article and whether the link to hennapage.com was appropriate. If you look back at the version history of the article, you will see that there was a period when the article was cluttered with links to personal websites, commercial websites and sites that appear to be "link farms." This led to an editor removing all links from the article. However, 1hennaphd, who happens to be the owner of hennapage.com made a case with the editors for allowing a link to the site because of the volume of information available there that goes far beyond the limits of a Wikipedia article and because she self-publishes her graduate research on henna and related subjects as well as research and practical articles from others.

I played no part in the decision to allow the link, but I've looked at other sites devoted to henna and I can honestly say that I don't see anything approaching the amount or quality of research work on any other site. And I believe this fact is what influenced the decision to allow the link. Forums and social networking have their place, but they are no substitute for a repository of research and bibliographic references to books and scholarly articles.

On a personal note, I think you would do better attempting to make a case for including hennatribe.com in the external links if you concentrated on the matter of the information available at the site and set aside your accusations of "bias" and "protectionism." Those accusations ring very hollow coming from someone who is a registered member of Hennatribe. 49oxen (talk) 12:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

What about more content about the serious side effects? Links to long term skin damage and leukaemia? This is a very common and extremely concerning aspect of the application of henna tattoos! I have photos of black tattoos after application then the two days later blistering and weeping, and months later, red scarring. MD73 (talk) 09:55, 17 August 2022 (UTC) MD73 (talk) 10:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

References

For males

I read that some cultures use henna on males, not only on females. Which ones? --Error (talk) 01:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The gendered use of henna henna for therapeutic purposes (such as diaper rash, head lice removal, and hair dye) tends to be gender neutral. The decorative use henna is more strongly gendered. The cultures where male use of henna is common are cultures wherein the level of G6PD deficiency is very low. This is a little complicated: see http://www.hennapage.com/henna/encyclopedia/geog6pd.5.pdf . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1hennaphd (talk • contribs) 02:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

In Cairo, Egypt, where I lived for 4 years, I've seen men who work in juice shops (which entails a lot of cutting fruit and washing glasses and ergo leads to chapped hands) apply henna therapeutically to their fingertips and the palms of their hands under the belief that this protects the skin. Middle- and upper classes of men in Egypt do not use henna therapeutically. I have never seen henna applied decoratively to any man of any social class in Egypt. - LL Wynn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.99.8 (talk) 23:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

In India men don't use it, but young boys often ask for it when I'm applying henna on girls. So, i guess it applies there. Every country's different tho I guess! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.182.71.229 (talk) 05:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

"Honeymoon" tradition

I read that in some cultures, the bride's friends try as much as they can to make the mehndi last, because it is understood that while the decoration stays, the newlywed wife is exempt from the chores of her new home, but when the decoration has faded, she has to take the normal life of a working wife. Can you confirm? --Error (talk) 01:08, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that from personal experiences working as a mehndi artist, yes that is a tradition in some cultures/families. I don't have a source at the moment, but I'm sure I can find one.Mehndijen (talk) 15:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh My God! The article mentions a religious text!????

Eeeeeuuuuu!!!! A religious text warning! I feel unclean! Purge it! Purge it!

What kind of bullshit are you folks peddling, anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iwanturkitty (talk • contribs) 20:19, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Feed for livestock

Can the plant be used for feeding livestock or poultry?

If chickens are raised on henna, does it change their flavor?

Does henna have a disagreeable flavor, and for that reason livestock or poultry refuse to eat it? 216.99.198.201 (talk) 08:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Possible Split?

There is a lot more information that could be added for both hair, and skin applications. I also feel information on henna in textiles should be included. I'm wondering if a split would help clarity? The current article would include basic information about the plant, then separate articles would include information on each hair, skin, and textile applications. If not, at the very least there will need to be some clean up. The "hair" section was dropped right in between discussion of preparation of henna for skin, and traditional uses of henna for skin!Mehndijen (talk) 15:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Weasel Words

I removed the judgmental words "mistakenly" and "so-called". They violate the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch policy. Henna was applied to "black henna" when it appeared on the market in England over 130 years ago. I has been called this in English the entire time it has been known to English speaking peoples. There are literally thousands of such words in common English usage. That does not make them mistaken nor so-called. It just means the original meaning of the word was broadened to cover a new object. For instance cardinal means "hinge", yet there is a bird in my back yard called cardinal. Do I need to put into the Wikipedia article [Cardinal (bird)] the words "so-called" and "mistakenly" because it is obviously a bird and not a hinge? How about the Wikipedia article about the [Cardinal (Catholicism)|cardinals] who elect the [Pope], and are all men? Or [Cardinal number]s? None of these are hinges. Nick Beeson (talk) 11:32, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

(new thread moved to bottom of page CarrieVS (talk) 15:25, 2 January 2013 (UTC))

Discussion on Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard

I started a discussion about one of the links in this article at Wikipedia:External_links/Noticeboard#Hennapage_-_free_site_closely_affiliated_with_a_commercial_site - MrOllie (talk) 10:54, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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Mehndi or in the west known as Henna

In India they used Mehndi for thousand of years. Mehndi (in the West known as Henna) is derived from the Sanskrit word mendhikā. Sanskrit is an languages that spokes and writes in India for thousands of years. They used it by wedding ceremony of girl/woman.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1C00:1613:8900:89ED:D8E3:55B5:1347 (talk) 05:56, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

why no french link?

...despite the article existing https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henn%C3%A9 ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.24.186.192 (talk) 15:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Different language Wikipedias split the topic up in different ways. en.wiki has an article on henna (as a dye), mehndi (an art form using the dye), and Lawsonia inermis (the plant source of the dye). The French article covering both the plant and the dye is linked to the en.wiki article on the plant.Plantdrew (talk) 15:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

OH. Well. too bad multiple links are not possible, then. Thanks for the answer anyway. I would never had thought to look at Lawsonia inermis in search of the fr link for henna (while I could have done the opposite, if the looked for the plant). 88.168.175.234 (talk) 12:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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