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Don't know what I'm doing[edit]

@Trillfendi: - Nice edit summary bro! What gives? NickCT (talk) 17:50, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NickCT: When you created the page it was only one sentence, which is not an acceptable state at all. Inevitably it was going to be speedy deleted. So for that reason... yeah. Trillfendi (talk) 14:36, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Trillfendi: - re "which is not an acceptable state at all" - Citation needed. Where does it say articles can't be one sentence? Just b/c you don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

Regardless, even if it is wrong, there are still nicer ways to make comments like that. Feel the WikiLove and give props to your fellow editors. NickCT (talk) 16:06, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NickCT: So why was it proposed for deletion by another editor, hmm? Failure of NBIO. Lack of expressed notability. Clearly I was right. A stub is qualified as running text or readable prose size of 160 words or 1,000 characters. If you think that one sentence did that then I can’t reason with you. The bare minimum requirement for an article is notability, and only saying someone worked for a few political campaigns does not do that whatsoever. Trillfendi (talk) 16:57, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Trillfendi: - You're clearly something.

160 to 1,000 characters? Again, citation needed. Are you making this stuff up as you go?

We measure a person's notability by how many sources write about that person. A person's notability is not the length of their Wikipedia article.

If an editor suspects a subject is non-notable, they ought to see if their are additional sources available for that person, before proposing deletion. Clearly in this case there were.

This article got proposed for deletion, b/c someone didn't take time to review the sources. Not b/c the article length was too short.

Look, I confess, I could have put more effort in to making the article longer. And I thank you for taking the time to do that. But still, having a short, one-sentence article for a notable person is better than no article at all. So please, if you're going to hate on me, do it while acknowledging that I'm making WP better....

Anyways.... Why don't we keep our eyes on the prize? Are you happy moving out of draft space? NickCT (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NickCT: Are you really too simple to not look for the definition of a stub article rather than resort to personal incredulity logical fallacies? A glorified byline is not a Wikipedia article. Hell, I’m the one who did the heavy lifting to actually make it something PRESENTABLE to the public by actually finding some of her accomplishments and biographical details. If you want credit for a sentence, here’s your cookie. 🍪 But the article was about to get deleted before I intervened, so no, it was not making Wikipedia better. Anyone could have just started from scratch. Trillfendi (talk) 16:02, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Trillfendi: - I'm not asking for a carrot. I'm just asking that I not get the stick.

The article would not have been deleted. I would have taken it to AfD.

I acknowledge you made the article better. Are you grown up enough to acknowledge other peoples' contributions? I'm guessing not.

You didn't answer my question about taking the article out of draft space....

Judging by your contribution history, you do not seem like a very collaborative or civil individual. Pity.... NickCT (talk) 18:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You decided to move the article out of the draft space even though plethora of proper career information was still missing. I didn't engage in move warring which would bring administrator action into it. Now "judging by my contribution history" I've brought at least 2 articles to Good Article status. Judging by my contribution history I have rescued 9 articles, including this one. Judging by my contribution history I've been given barnstars for "valuable contributions", "great Wikipedia work", neutralization, "generally commendable work across a variety of areas and projects", speedy reassessment of a disastrous attempt of a Good Article review, and resilience. I am not here to be liked. Try again, dude. Trillfendi (talk) 23:30, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notability[edit]

Hey User:Shoy, I understand your sentiment, b/c this person is clearly of marginal notability, but I'm pretty confident this would be a KEEP at AfD. NickCT (talk) 17:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NickCT: The way the article looked when I tagged it, I don't think it would be. I still am not sure it's an easy keep even after your edits. shoy (reactions) 18:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Shoy: - Agree. Not an easy keep. But it seems like a pretty firm weak keep. NickCT (talk) 23:29, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Move to main space?[edit]

This article is no longer a draft, right? There are no longer any deletion concerns? Can we move it out of draft? NickCT (talk) 12:14, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article[edit]

Basic information to add to this article: cause of death. 76.190.213.189 (talk) 21:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently unknown but officials believe health-related. Wylie pedia @ 06:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]