Talk:Headstone

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R.I.P[edit]

"Rest in Peace" redirects to here, but there is no mention of "Rest in Peace" in the entire article. TheDavesr 18:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plain 19th century headstones?[edit]

I have removed the statement:

In the 19th century, headstones tended to have no decoration. However, from the 20th century, they might be replaced by more elaborately carved markers, such as crosses or angels.

recently added by User:Verica Atrebatum. Where are all these plain, unadorned Victorian headstones? [citation needed], please. SiGarb | Talk 21:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the statement was probably a bit strong. I was trying to make the point that older stones usually have some form of carved emblematic decoration, where as Victorian ones are much more diverse and don't necessarily. I'll see if I can find some sort of reference. Verica Atrebatum 21:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery[edit]

The name on the black headstone in the gallery was blurred out to obscure the name, but it's still legible, at least the first and middle name. Just wanted to let you know... :) --Vlmastra 03:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Headstones causing injury[edit]

The statement removed, although refering to a rare indicident, is not actually nonsense. There has been considerable publicity in the UK concerning a health and safety crackdown to prevent such incidents, although the risk has been largely exaggerated. You can read a letter from the chief of the Health and Safety Commission concerning the matter online. Verica Atrebatum 18:32, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Symbolism[edit]

Some of these interpretations seem pretty arbitrary -- it would be nice to trace these to a WP:RS. DavidOaks (talk) 22:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History of gravestones[edit]

There's absolutely zero history about the use of rocks as grave markers. Did stones start being used to mark graves in the 11th century? Or was it before homo sapiens and Neanderthals split? Or did Neanderthals invent it and humans got the idea from them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.165.89.176 (talk) 01:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery tagged[edit]

Why was the gallery tagged as being inappropriate? While I get that Wikipedia is not a photo repository the policy reads: "[Wikipedia is not] Mere collections of photographs or media files with no text to go with the articles". There is text describing headstones from around the world and according to WP:IG, a gallery is appropriate "in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images". What the gallery here shows is how different headstones can be from country to country and belief to belief, while I agree that there are a few images that could be removed or expanded on with a history of the stone, it doesn't seem to be a place where people just randomly insert photos of graves which is mainly why galleries are discouraged. Bhall87Four Scoreand Seven 03:32, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Chrisemms (talk) 16:08, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree and I removed the tag with the explanation that the gallery illustrates the concept of "headstone." --Utilizer (talk) 03:31, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lying gravestones?[edit]

Can a gravestone be lying or does it have to be standing in order to be a gravestone? —Kri (talk) 01:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary defines "gravestone" as a stone slab set at the head of a grave and Merriam-Webster defines it as a burial monument so based on those definitions as long as the stone is marking a grave it is considered a gravestone. Bhall87Four Scoreand Seven 03:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks. —Kri (talk) 14:28, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Opening[edit]

I've edited the opening to be a tad more encyclopedic, but think it could do with a bit of touching up, don't think my work is the best it could be. Wootcannon (talk) 18:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I find the gallery[edit]

to be a bit random (and I am usually pro-random, so it must be (opinion) pretty bad). I am considering dividing the gallery into country of origin and seeing what it looks like at that point. Then perhaps chronologically within each country? Any thoughts? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am also a bit confused as to exactly what in the second image (Singapore) is the headsone? Just the book? Does it include the frame? And how about the statue? Is that a part of the "headstone?" Left to my own devises I would remove the image, but I am not alone here (am I?) so will wait a bit for more opinions. Carptrash (talk) 16:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Belatedly, all true - I removed the statue anyway. Johnbod (talk) 01:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Photo[edit]

I have come across this unusual gravemarker and feel, since I have never seen the like before, it might be unique enough to be included here.

Long timber gravemarker.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpriv2000 (talkcontribs) 21:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These are generally known as "graveboards". They were fairly common at one time in south-east England, and often appear in old prints and photos, but not many survive. I'm not aware of much literature about them, but there is a survey/study project currently under way organised by Colin Bowlt of the London & Middlesex Archaeological Society: you might want to email him (c.bowlt@tiscali.co.uk) to make sure he knows about this one. GrindtXX (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have forwarded the picture. Russ Hamer 11:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpriv2000 (talkcontribs)

Any References to "Headbore"?[edit]

I'm coming from Bábonymegyer where the word 'headbore' is linked to 'headstone' and directed here. Are there any references, even Hungarian published/translated ones, that lend credence to that decision?

Cheers! Elfabet (talk) 17:22, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Tombstone" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tombstone. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:52, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was silly. — LlywelynII 20:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 19 May 2024[edit]

Headstonetombstone – Dear God, no.

(a) Not all gravestones are headstones.

(b) This isn't an WP:ENGVAR issue. Tombstone is by far the WP:ENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME for gravestones in every dialect of English (1, 2, 3).

(c) Tombstone already (appropriately) links here, so this isn't any form of WP:NATURALDAB either. (If one were needed, which it ain't, funeral stela/stele would actually cover more ground and be more appropriate for cremated remains &c.) — LlywelynII 20:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]