Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One

Changing the visibility of the (key) for F1 races.

I noticed that many F1 pages use a template for the key of races for example {{F1 driver results legend 8}}. The way it's often used is a simple link to the template page, requiring the reader to navigate away from the page to understand the key. Would there be some consensus to change these to a collapsible table like I have done here: special:diff/1220858948? Pabsoluterince (talk) 11:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Max Verstappen

Why list of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Max Verstappen still require administrator access? Eurohunter (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Because people kept creating the article in spite of the deletion discussion, so it was WP:SALTed indefinitely. SSSB (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@SSSB: There is no reason to not create it now. Eurohunter (talk) 16:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes there is. There is nothing to suggest that the previous deletion discussion (and WP:CSD#G4) wouldn't apply to a re-created article. SSSB (talk) 16:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@SSSB: Of course there is. From what I see, list was unfinished at the time of deletion and Verstappen was then 16th with 21 wins, now he is 3rd with 58 wins ahead of Vettel, Prost and Senna. There is only Schumacher and Hamilton above him. Eurohunter (talk) 16:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Irrelevant - the article wasn't deleted because Verstappen didn't have enough wins. SSSB (talk) 16:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes there is. The subject still doesn’t meer our notability guidelines.Tvx1 01:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

@Tvx1: So what about Vettel, Prost, Senna or Manuel Fangio? Eurohunter (talk) 11:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't pinged but I will contribute an answer regardless. Firstly, This is an WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement. I could also easily spin this around - a consensus was made to delete the list of Verstappen's list (and many others), this consensus can be extended to the similar lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton. They should be deleted too. Since my WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement is based on actual consensus amoungst editor, not an editor creating lists by themselves, my position is much stronger. Secondly, I would say that the lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton don't meet the notability criteria either, I just can't be bothered to nominate for deletion and have a long, strung out debate. SSSB (talk) 11:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Seconded. Most of the lists of wins don't even link to anywhere except back to the main subject. Someone (not me, I'm not that daft) nominate the lot for deletion, but good luck to anyone digging themselves into those holes. Halmyre (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree with the other ones. These should actually be deleted. We actually did end up nomating a bunch of this type of articles a while ago and they were deleted. Tvx1 15:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Naming format for power unit articles

There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Honda V6 hybrid Formula One power unit regarding the naming of the Renault E-Tech Series (Formula One engine), Ferrari turbocharged V6 F1 engine (2014-present), Honda V6 hybrid Formula One power unit, and Mercedes V6 Hybrid Formula One engine articles. Interested editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Carfan568 (talk) 14:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

External links

@Personal CR: is adding external links involving Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and so on on Grands Prix articles (see his contributions). Is that something proper? Island92 (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

No, as outlined in WP:NOSOCIAL. As a now mooted side pointed, the instance of this I looked at (Special:Diff/1227795568) is further inappropriate as the links in this specific edit are for the circuit, not the actual Grand Prix as is claimed. SSSB (talk) 21:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok. Island92 (talk) 04:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Andretti F1 bid article?

Thought I'd put this out there for discussion: does the project believe a standalone article on the Andretti Formula One bid is worthwhile? Happy to start this but want some perspective on if it is due weight or could end up merged back to Andretti Global. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 05:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I haven't done a proper check, but I would suggest that WP:GNG is defenitly satisified. The only question then becomes, is there enough content to justify a split from Andretti Global? Andretti Global#Formula One could be expanded, but I don't think there is enough content that I would split, but at the same time if it were split, I'm not convinced that a deletion/merge discussion would be successful - it is in that grey area. SSSB (talk) 06:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

My thinking is that every point discussed on the Andretti Global article could almost be its own section in a standalone article. There are also other relevant events, such as the US Congress's involvement ([1]) and Andretti's investment in European infrastructure, which aren't discussed at all. If I was 100% confident that it would survive an AfD I would've already started – I'll wait for some others to comment, if there's isn't a rough consensus it's worthwhile I'll focus on expanding the Andretti section. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 06:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)