Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Bardia

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Promoted -MBK₀₀₄ 08:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Bardia[edit]

Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk)

Getting back to creating and editing the odd article. Starting with this one on Bardia. Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - just a few quick comments for now:

The lead requires an expansion, preferably to a good three paragraphs.
Subheadings should not begin with "The", per MoS.
Images require alt text.
Endashes are needed between page ranges used in citations.

Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- All done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Some minor comments:

Check if it was Lieutenant General Annibale Bergonzoli's XXIII Corps - I think it may have been the XXI Corps (I dont think there was a XXIII Corps in Africa at that time. XX, XXI and XXII Corps formed the Tenth Army under command of General d'Armata Tellera.
- I have checked all my sources. All are agreed that Bergonzoli commanded the XXIII Corps, which was destroyed in the battle. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I checked Pitt: The Crucible of War: Wavell's Command - he clearly states in the oob for this period that XXI Corps under command of Annibale Bergonzoli contained the 1st and 2nd Blackshirt Divisions! BUT...... this could have been after Bardia, as the oob gives no specific date - its the Compass oob. So, I go along with your text. Farawayman (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the CampaignBox, if you list Bergonzoli as commander (i.e. Italian Corps Commander), then should we not list the corresponding Allied Corps Commander: O'Conner?
- And list all the Italian division commanders to match Mackay? Mackay was in overall command of the attacking force; Bergonzoli of the defence. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Exceptional detail and deserving of A Class status! Farawayman (talk) 07:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I concur fully...outstanding job! This battle set the pattern and tone for the rest of Operation Compass. Arguably, if you take Bardia and repeated it about 8 times you would basically have Compass.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) (talk) 14:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support: IMO it meets the A class criteria. Good work. Anotherclown (talk) 06:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support: no dabs, alt text is present, external links all work and refs consolidated. Images all have appropriate copyright licences, etc. Well written, illustrated and appropriate length. Great work. — AustralianRupert (talk) 11:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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