User talk:GoodHue291

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Nice of you to endorse my block at WP:ANI, but you are supposedly a brand-new editor. What in the world drew you to that thread and then to endorse a block; such an action would normally be done only by an experienced user and probably one familiar with the blocked user and their edits. What other accounts do you have or have had at Wikipedia?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I came across it because I was looking at different links on Wikipedia until I stumbled upon this where I saw your interesting proposal, of course, reading it before making a wise decision would be the best move for me. But if only experienced users on this site can decide on a proposal, let me know.

I've never had any other account on Wikipedia besides this one, although I forgot the username and password to one of the accounts I had before, I don't bother trying to log back in. GoodHue291 (talk) 19:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

So you've never had other accounts, but one of the accounts (plural) you've had before you've lost the password and username? Do you perchance remember the username of one of the other accounts you've had (not the one you lost the password for)?

At any rate, how long have you edited Wikipedia for, including with your previous accounts? – 2804:F14:80B7:8201:90E7:C193:821D:E8C2 (talk) 21:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

IP Editor, I am not in the liberty to say. GoodHue291 (talk) 21:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Why? – 2804:F14:80B7:8201:90E7:C193:821D:E8C2 (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Moonson

RE the item Moonson which you have proposed for deletion, the photographer (Brian Brake) and the series are notable, and the references are to the website of Te Papa the National Museum of New Zealand website. Hugo999 (talk) 22:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure what article you're referring to. GoodHue291 (talk) 22:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Monsoon (photographs). Ingratis (talk) 21:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Adding notability tags to settlements

Hi, please do not add notability tags to populated and legally recognized settlements as you did on Topallar, Musabeyli. Please read WP:GEOLAND, which states populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. If this was not the case, we wouldn't have thousands of pages for settlements all around the globe for decades. Thank you, Aintabli (talk) 19:35, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I have skimmed through your other edits and would like to note that the length and the number of sources present in an article do not determine notability. Aintabli (talk) 19:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

The length and number of sources does determine notability. If an article has one source, then it needs additional citations for verification. Of course, there's some articles here that don't cite sources at all, which is an issue.

I understand now that populated places don't need to be notable to be on Wikipedia, but I put the tag in the article because it was very short + only cited 1 or 2 sources. Additional citations could be possible, but I always checked before adding the tags. It's also worth mentioning here that it needs to be mentioned in MULTIPLE sources, which meant more than 2 sources provided in that speicifc article.GoodHue291 (talk) 20:19, 22

Superfluous tagging

There's no need for both {{One source}} and {{More citations needed}} tags on an article. By the way, you really should take Aintabli's points above. Ingratis (talk) 21:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

If an article has one source within it, then it needs the tag. Also, I am taking the users advice if you'd read the conversation. I put {{more citations needed}} for verification. GoodHue291 (talk) 21:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

If an article has the {{One source}} tag it doesn't also need the {{More citations needed}} tag, because it is implicit that an article with only one source requires more references. Also, it's clear from your replies to Aintabli that you have yet fully to understand a number of important points, particularly the relation between notability and sourcing. You are trying to run before you can walk, although I imagine you will not thank me for saying so. Ingratis (talk) 21:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It must've been a mistake on my end to put the {{more citations needed}} tag with the one source tag. But if an article has onse singular source then a one source tag is needed to let users know, upon viewing the article that there's an issue with it. I think you're onto something when you mention notability vs sourcing. GoodHue291 (talk) 22:18, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

You'll get the hang of it, I'm sure. If you'll forgive me, you've been having two main difficulties, which are very common: (1) Notability is decided by the existence of sources anywhere, whether online or in hard copy, and in any language, not just by whether they're included in articles; and (2) as you've discovered with populated places and GEOLAND, some subjects have special guidelines or conventions (NPOL and NSPECIES are others) which mean that their required sourcing differs from what the GNG says. This is a warzone now, as several highly vocal editors don't accept this and want the GNG to apply to everything, but you'll already have picked this up at AfD. Please persevere and I hope you enjoy your editing. Ingratis (talk) 15:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure, but what about inline citations (specific sources for specific text)? Even though, lets say, an article has a source or two but doesn't directly point to the text, then it must need incline citations to point specific parts of the text here and there. GoodHue291 (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

If there are unattached sources as you describe (which often happens in articles translated from other wikipedias, where they are not so bothered by inline citations), the tag to use is {{No footnotes}}.Ingratis (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)