Talk:Aqidah/Archive 1

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I don't see the point of their being an "Aqidah" and a "basic Muslim beliefs" article, when they both say the same thing. I Propose merging them - Does anyone object? --Irishpunktom\^talk 15:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Ill go ahead and do it. --Striver 18:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Mizan

Mizan is a book on shariah and not on fiqh but it does have a section on fundamentals of Islam, that comes under wisdom, and it deals only with aqeedah. TruthSpreader^Talk 02:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

technically speaking i don't think one book exists that can be called a book on shari'ah. shari'ah generally means the actual islamic law, fiqh is the knowledge of the law and its precursor. fiqh and its principles is the means by which shari'ah is ascertained. so you will have various books of fiqh discussing islamic governance, acts of worship and so on, in order to ascertain what is and is not shari'ah. books of fiqh may differ as to whether a certain action is condoned under shari'ah or not. a book can't be called a book on shari'ah: if it tries to adduce what shari'ah is, then it's a book of fiqh, as shari'ah is derived through fiqh. all of the headings mentioned in the contents of Mizan are exactly what you will find in classic and contemporary books of fiqh. in the book of prayer for example, it is using legal texts to establish fiqhi opinions which may or may not be the actual shari' position. if by book on shari'ah you mean it is a book which attempts to outline the system of shari'ah, then yes it may be called that.

whether it is a book on fiqh or shari'ah is inconsequential here (although it is an interesting discussion), as the majority of the book is not related to 'aqeedah in the same way as the other books listed in the article are. i checked through the wisdom section and it outlines some very basic doctrine. i don't think it can really be called a book on 'aqeedah in the same way that al-'ibaanah (for example), which is a book going into extremely detailed matters of creed, can be called a book on 'aqeedah. a book on 'aqeedah would be a book discussing isses of 'aqeedah exclusively (or at least covering the majority of the book) as is the case with all of the books currently mentioned in the list. similarly, a book on 'aqeedah with a small section on basic fiqh would not be considered a book on fiqh. ITAQALLAH 03:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I really appreciate your point but this book is (at least) an attempt to write the complete contents of Islam or the bare skeleton of Islam (minimum what is ordained by God as opposite to fiqh, which is maximum how religion will act in our lives). He tried, not to assert opinions of any particular doctrine but to present the religion through only Quran and Sunnah. Although, as like other works, this work would also have flaws, but this is the objective. So this is why, I call it a book on shariah and not on fiqh. And I think this is a very rare attempt to write such a book with these objectives. TruthSpreader^Talk 04:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

citation for word kutub needs reliable source

referece for kutub as previous scripture needs reliable source to improve the article because the reference cited is of Islamic Holy books and Islamic Holy books is referring to Aqida. please check because on both places there is no any reference ....thanks.Farrukh38 (talk) 21:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Aqidah (sometimes spelled as Aqeeda, Aqida or Aqeedah) (Arabic: عقيدة) is an Islamic term meaning creed. Any religious belief system, or creed, can be considered an examples of aqidah. However this term has taken a significant technical usage in Muslim history and theology, denoting those matters over which Muslims hold conviction. There are three main accepted schools of Sunni Aqidah: Ashari, Maturidi and Athari.

bolded part must be removed It has nothing to do with the article

Thank You

If you find vandalism, you are free to remove it. Just because you don't have an account doesn't mean that you can't edit Wikipedia. Fuzzform (talk) 20:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Move Page

Please move this page to a correctly spelled page. Aqeedah would be more preferred over Aqidah as the two are pronounced differently. The word Aqidah does not support the actual pronunciation of the word. Soleado (talk) 22:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Disagree. The word should not be spelled randomly according to random phonetic musings. The spelling currently used is the standard LOC/scholarly format; a made-up version "aqeedah" is not helpful. Should we move علم to a page called Elm because the pharyngeal ع causes a vowel shift? (Answer: no.) ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 02:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

No we should not move علم to Elm because the pharyngeal ع does not sound like the letter e; there is no long e sound in Arabic. The page Ilm should not be moved because the word علم is pronounced the same way as it is spelled in the Roman transliteration ('Ilm). Aqeedah is not a made up spelling; the majority of English speakers/writers are starting to use the phonetic spellings for Arabic words because they know that pronunciation plays a major role in the Arabic language and that spelling words the way they are pronounced is the best method to keep everything the same and simple. The spelling for the word Qur'an or Quran used to be Koran but notice how Quran became the universal spelling. I, along with a growing population of followers, hold strong to my defense on using the phonetic spellings for Arabic words. Soleado (talk) 04:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)