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Sapa as the "capital of Namayan"[edit]

Changing The Narrative

There seems to have been a popular misunderstanding regarding the capital of Namayan, during which even the most credible historians (like William Henry Scott, in his work "Barangay Sixteenth Century Philippine Culture and Society", which made one mention of Namayan, describing it as Santa Ana) seem to be confused about.

Of course, we are not going to be opinionated regarding the matter. Instead, we will analyze and dissect the primary source of Namayan itself: the "Estado, Topográfico, Estadistíco, Histórico—Religioso, de la Santa y Apostólica Provincia de San Gregorio Magno, de Religiosos Menores Descalzos de la Regular y Mas Estrecha Observancia De Nuestro Padre San Francisco, en las Islas Filipinas" by Fr. Felix de Huerta (1865)


So based on the primary source which is Fr. Felix Huerta's work, here are the digital copies of it for anyone interested:


According to these links, Huerta himself simply never stated that Meysapan and Namayan were the same. In fact, he distinguished Namayan and Sapa (Santa Ana). In his own words, Namayan was a "barrio" within Santa Ana de Sapa.

Of course, he stated Brgy. Namayan in Mandaluyong to be part of Santa Ana de Sapa. Why? Because Mandaluyong was under the jurisdiction of Santa Ana de Sapa during the Spanish colonial era.

There is not even an established debate that can prove that Meysapan is the equivalent, the embodiment of Namayan.

Huerta also stated that Meysapan/Sapa was only a territory under Namayan. He listed them from Meycatmon to Meysapan in an orderly fashion.


What led to the confusion in the first place?

Santa Ana de Sapa was an important parish during the Spanish period. It absorbed places like Santa Mesa, Sampaloc, San Miguel, Quiapo, San Juan, Mandaluyong, and Makati into its jurisdiction.

But that was only during the Spanish era. Sapa as the capital of this vast parish was a choice by the Spanish.

The pre-colonial situation is different. Furthermore, some historians only mention Namayan as Santa Ana, but never explain why. There is no strong foundation to even debate this. The fact that this narrative even exists is all because of one giant misreading and misunderstanding.

Conclusion

Brgy. Namayan in Mandaluyong is the capital of Namayan and the seat of power of Lakan Tagkan and Bouan.

Delirium333 (talk) 04:30, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]