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Hi, you closed an SPI I submitted saying it's dynamic IPs. So to clarify, it's not socking for editor to claim to be multiple IP editors to gain talk page consensus if neither IP is blocked? If it's not socking for editor to claim to be multiple users, what is the appropriate noticeboard? Thanks, Kirin13 (talk) 22:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
There is one big difference that isolates whether it's socking or not. If it's just a group of IPs, and they aren't particularly claiming that they are different people, then no it's not socking. Because people's IPs can change easily depending on an ISPs policies. As soon as there is a user account involved though, with IPs OR other users, it's socking. -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ) 22:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
The case is two IPs claiming to be two different people to gain consensus and break 3RR when it's clearly one person. How is that not socking? Kirin13 (talk) 22:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
3RR violation was not mentioned in the case. It looks like the 3RR was a few days ago, so i can't block on that basis of WP:PUNITIVE. As for the IPs talking as if they are one, I'll will issue a final warning to them about it (and remind them about 3RR) after dinner, and the next offence will be blockable. -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ) 23:15, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with the situation and thanks for your patience with me. I didn't mention the 3RR earlier because it was stale and because I don't formally report 3RR without warning the user (which I felt I could not do because it was on different accounts). Thanks again, Kirin13 (talk) 02:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I am feeling a bit perplexed about the SPI issue. Another sockpuppet of Sheodred has returned, this time as 220.127.116.11(talk·contribs·WHOIS) since the SPI has been closed. The IP, which is based in Ireland (the same location as Sheodred), removed the sock puppetry notices and as far as I can understand, IPs are not allowed to remove sock puppetry notices. But according to this message which I removed from my talk page and find that it is troubling, the IP is actually shared by a billpayer. I also find this message to be very troubling as well. I'm thinking about opening another SPI on this. What are your thoughts on the matter? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:12, 22 July 2014 (UTC)