Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth subculture

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The result was keep. --Ezeu 18:01, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Youth subculture[edit]

del essay, which is a random text about subculture. If you delete the word "youth", or replace by the word, say, "army veteran", after small context changes you will get an article of same meaningfulness. I am not saying that the topic is invalid. It is just the article that is useless. Mukadderat 21:41, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete essay. Danny Lilithborne 22:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article itself has citations, and a quick Amazon search reveals book after book on the topic. [1]. A messy article isn't cause for deletion; it's cause for tagging as disputed or requiring cleanup. William Pietri 22:42, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- In case you haven't noticed, we already have an article youth culture. Of course, "youth culture" is not homogeneous. Of course, there are various "subcultures" in it. But we have, say, Culture of India, but there was no one smart enough to write "Subculture of India", although there are plenty of unique subcultures in India, and you know what? there are plenty of google hits for "subculture of india" and "subculture in india" and other variants to collect enough references for an even longer rant. `'mikka (t) 02:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~delete~~. non-encyclopedic essay, which even does not define its title. `'mikka (t) 04:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keepp after expanding. Next time to avoid such situation please start writing articles from head, not from tail. Next time you can create a scratchpad, e.g., User:JenLouise/Youth Sub, and then move the page into a proper name when the article becomes reasonable and out of danger. `'mikka (t) 18:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has a stub tag on it, because it needs work. Youth subcultures are completely distinct from youth culture. Youth culture arises in opposition to parent cultures or the adult world. Youth subcultures are ways of young people creating and maintaining an identity that distinguishes them from other youth. It is a valid, distinct area of study in sociology and therefore is valid material for an article. JenLouise 06:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, on the condition that there will be much cleanup, to raise it up to Wikipedia standards.Spylab 20:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Spylab[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.