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User:PaulBrowning777

Draft:Twenty First - Youth of Today

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Guide to deletion

SagamoreHill Broadcasting

SagamoreHill Broadcasting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not meet the WP:NCORP because of a lack of in-depth coverage. PROD was contested so bringing it to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 03:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Phil Agcaoili

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Almost entirely the work of User:Greyhat, who, based on the deleted edit summaries for File:Phil Agcaoili 2011.jpg, has been in personal contact with the subject. Unclear the subject is notable, and the article is highly promotional. The company he founded is apparently not notable enough to have an article. -- Beland (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Nima Hashemi

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Doesn't meet WP:DIRECTOR and WP:GNG. I don't see any RS. Claggy (talk) 02:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Zesławicki Lagoon

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A small artificial reservoir in suburban Krakow; fails WP:GNG. Both sources in the article are WP:USERGENERATED; a BEFORE search does not unearth any additional qualifying sources. Under WP:NGEO, an artificial infrastructure entity qualifies for notability under GNG and otherwise redirects to the notable feature that prompted its creation. In this case, the river the the lagoon impounds is not notable and thus, without qualifying sources, neither its the lagoon itself. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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• I haven't translated these but a search for "Zalew Zesławicki" brings up [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. I'm not sure if all of these pass GNG, for instance the last one is just a single sentence, but there's at least sources. SportingFlyer T·C 06:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Its likely notable as a geographic feature. There will be the countries water body reference i.e. a Bathymetrical register that describes width/height/depth and 100 other properties. scope_creep^Talk 08:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

  It is not listed in the official Polish directory of bodies of water: WYKAZ NAZW WÓD STOJĄCYCH (LIST OF NAMES OF STANDING WATERS). Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Thumb Cellular

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Fails GNG and NCORP. Sources in article and found in BEFORE do not meet WP:SIRS, addressing the subject directly and indepth by independent reliable sources. Found name mentions, promotional, listings, nothing meeting WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth.  // Timothy :: talk  01:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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Why not try to add on to the article rather than delete it? I worked on it for literally 2 1/2 hours trying to find the most information I could on the subject. I did it right before I had to go to work too. Plus, there are many local cellular providers and local radio stations listed on Wikipedia that have been up for years, meaning that there is an interest in them. What makes Thumb Cellular different? Demondude182 (talk) 07:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the current rule is supposed to be that we can't trust what companies have to say about themselves. This includes pres releases, and most of the regular business announcements that you see, which are mostly just copy-and-pasted press releases. It used to be less strict, and the articles on those other local cellular providers were probably created back then, and nobody has gotten around to reviewing if they need to be deleted since then. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - I see some WP:ROUTINE local coverage but nothing that meets WP:ORGCRIT. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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Mountain House Community station

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This proposed commuter train station does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NSTATION Sources 1, 4, and 5 have WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of this planned station in the broader context of the Valley Link system; sources 2 and 3 are primary sources. With this station not scheduled to open until 2028 at the earliest, a standalone article is WP:TOOSOON. I propose to redirect this page to Valley Link until there is sufficient SIGCOV in reliable sources to warrant a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect per nomination. Appears to be too soon for a standalone article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. There are already lots of references, and their number and length will grow as designs are finalized and coverage of the project and individual stations continues. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

  You obviously didn't read them as none of the independent sources say more than a sentence or two about the station, and you're making a very bold assumption about a station not expected to open until near the end of the decade. Valley Link already exists. But why let facts get in the way of your personal feelings? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Per WP:FUTURE "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." According to the sources, "The Valley Link project has been awarded $25 million by the state.That funding will go toward Valley Link’s first phase — the 26-mile section from the Pleasanton BART station to the proposed Mountain House station. The overall project is expected to cost $3.6 billion." — Maile (talk) 19:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

  Regardless of how certain the WP:FUTURE is, the station still has to pass the WP:SIGCOV test to be notable, and it doesn't -- it has passing references in sources focused on the whole system. It will someday, but until then, a redirect is appropriate. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect. Fails NOT and GNG. The above keeps have entirely missed the part of FUTURE that says future events should be included only if the event is notable (bolding mine); there is no IRS SIGCOV of this event, so it emphatically fails that requirement. JoelleJay (talk) 21:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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Tan Yinglan

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Tan Yinglan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Factors do not appear to have meaningfully changed since the prior discussion. He's an active businessperson, and Insignia Ventures Partners may be notable but he does not appear so as an author. Star Mississippi 01:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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List of Apache–MySQL–PHP packages

List of Apache–MySQL–PHP packages (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There was an AfD on this previously that determined to keep this article on the basis that AfD is not a place to resolve sourcing concerns. I think there are sourcing concerns with respect to notablity, which is a valid reason to bring an AfD. I can't find any reliable article that actually makes comparisons between different AMP stacks. The two sources in the article are about individual stacks, and don't make any comparisons between different stacks. HyperAccelerated (talk) 23:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to LAMP (software bundle) and redirect those that relate to AMP variants to LAMP (software bundle)#Variants. As HA has said, this article does not make any meaningful comparisons, so I don't see any objections against its inclusion in Wikipedia somewhere. I'm also pretty sure that we can find reliable sources that tell us these softwares are *AMP stacks for that platform.
  After merging, redirects without mention can go through G8 or RfD later. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep for now. This is a list article, it doesn't need sourcing for each individual linked page. However, many of the linked articles have their own problems; in particular, WIMP (software bundle), AMPPS, Zend Server, and WampServer might not survive AFD. It seems plausible that either those pages might be merged here, or that, after some of them would be removed, there would not be enough content for an article separate from LAMP (software bundle). Until that is resolved, I think this should be kept. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

  I don't see how this is long enough for its own article nor how there are enough mentions as a whole to meet WP:NLIST. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

  I agree with Aaron's comment above. I don't see how anything you brought up here pertains to WP: NLIST. HyperAccelerated (talk) 03:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  If there are ten stand-alone articles on "LAMP variants that aren't on Linux", it seems reasonable that there would be a list of them somewhere (possibly at LAMP (software bundle) or BAPP rather than a stand-alone article, but somewhere). On the other hand, if six of those stand-alone articles are merged or deleted, the value of a list article is clearly decreased. Walsh90210 (talk) 04:14, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  The number of stand-alone articles in a list and its notability have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Please read WP: NLIST. HyperAccelerated (talk) 13:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. - a longer list is more likely to fulfill a useful navigation purpose. Walsh90210 (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  You have shown nothing to indicate that this list fulfills any of those purposes. HyperAccelerated (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

  I really don’t see how a list of every combination is useful. Comparing the individual components makes much more sense. At most, this can be part of another article. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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Juan Astorga Junquera

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Subject has a stable article at Spanish Wikipedia but notability according to English Wikipedia guidelines for either WP:GNG, WP:NACADEMIC or WP:ARTIST isn't evident. I'd like to hear what others think. Rkieferbaum (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Notable Any biography: The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field- His recognized contribution to Digital Art Curation. HarveyPrototype (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Recognized by whom? The term "digital art curation" does not even appear in the article. Geschichte (talk) 04:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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WBON-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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Jesse Campbell (equestrian)

Jesse Campbell (equestrian) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:PSEUDO; most notably only peripherally mentioned in relation to the passing of his wife. Basically a WP:BLP1E if that can be considered an E at all. Firestar464 (talk) 00:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Coverage is all about his spouse dying; this is the only coverage of this person [7] to at least mention him in the title, but it's a non-RS, so not helping notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 01:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
• Strong keep The nominator deserves to be trouted. How about doing a BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion? There is tons of in-depths coverage out there from long before his wife died, for example Eventing Nation in September 2018, Radio New Zealand in June 2021 Gazette & Herald in July 2021. Schwede66 02:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Saturne Party

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Demoscene#List of demoparties. toweli (talk) 00:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Cold Driven

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Article about a band, not reliably sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The attempted notability claim, that they had a single peak #51 in the charts, is unsourced and has proven entirely unverifiable, and #51 is in no way a high enough chart position to constitute and instant notability freebie without adequate sourcing -- but the only source cited here at all is a (pporly written) directory entry, and on a WP:BEFORE search for other sources all I'm finding is their own hometown local paper and an alt-weekly, which isn't enough to get them over WP:GNG if it's all they've got. Bearcat (talk) 00:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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Categories

Category:Cartoon Network stubs

• Propose deleting Category:Cartoon Network stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Stub category no longer populated enough to warrant retention. As always, stub categories need to have a minimum of 60 articles, but after I detagged a handful of articles that were too long to be tagged as stubs at all this went from 25 to 20. It has existed in its current form since 2011, after being deleted as underpopulated in 2007 -- but was then tagged as underpopulated again in 2018, until that template was deleted at TFD, so it's not entirely clear that it was ever really adequately populated at all.
Even the 20 pages that are here are a bit of a random grab bag, as it's populated mainly by video game or album tie-ins to Cartoon Network programming and/or foreign channels that franchised Cartoon Network or Boomerang branding, rather than things that actually have much to do with the Category:United States television stubs parent -- so it's not at all clear that there are actually very many things that could be added here to get it back over 60 articles again. It's not generally standard practice, at any rate, to stub-tag things for overly specific associations like particular TV networks; WikiProject Cartoon Network already has project templates on the talk pages anyway, so this isn't serving any important purpose that isn't already being served elsewhere. Bearcat (talk) 01:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete or possibly merge, to Category:Animation stubs if the latter. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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Omaha people

• Rename Category:Omaha (Native American) people to Category:Omaha Tribe of Nebraska people

Nominator's rationale As there is only one recognized Omaha tribe, the Omaha Tribe of Nebraska (that is the official tribal name on the federal register), change this category's name to match the official name and get rid of the clunky parentheses. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 05:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

• No oppose, but wouldn't Category:Omaha people be simpler? Marcocapelle (talk) 17:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Marcocapelle if I recall correctly that's what it was originally and then somebody changed it because they thought people would confuse it for people from the city of Omaha. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 02:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

  • I see. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  Perhaps Category:Omaha Tribe people would work. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 02:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

• Rename to Category:Omaha people to match Omaha people, and because similarly ambiguous names like Category:Iowa people/Category:People from Iowa aren't disambiguated in this manner. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

  @LaundryPizza03 That is what it was before. Here is a link to the previous discussion. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  • Iowa should be renamed as well. That just results in maintenance headaches -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 22:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Support renaming to Category:Omaha Tribe people or Category:Omaha Tribe of Nebraska people. Noting that the parent cat is: Category:Omaha Tribe of Nebraska. We have ambiguity due to the tribe name and the city name. And since the city is at Omaha due to WP:COMMONNAME, we should find a way to provide clarity. I think using the name that the tribe themselves use is an easy way forward. - jc37 19:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Hospitals in Dharwad

• Propose renaming Category:Hospitals in Dharwad to Category:Hospitals in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose renaming Category:Hindu temples in Dharwad to Category:Hindu temples in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Buildings and structures in Dharwad to Category:Buildings and structures in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose renaming Category:Engineering colleges in Dharwad to Category:Engineering colleges in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose renaming Category:Medical colleges in Dharwad to Category:Medical colleges in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Universities and colleges in Dharwad to Category:Universities and colleges in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Education in Dharwad to Category:Education in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose renaming Category:Neighbourhoods in Dharwad to Category:Neighbourhoods in Hubli–Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Dharwad to Category:Hubli–Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Government of Dharwad to Category:Local government in Karnataka
• Propose deleting Category:Geography of Dharwad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose merging Category:Roads in Dharwad to Category:Roads in Dharwad district
• Propose renaming Category:Road transport in Dharwad to Category:Road transport in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose renaming Category:Rail transport in Dharwad to Category:Rail transport in Hubli-Dharwad
• Propose merging Category:Transport in Dharwad to Category:Transport in Hubli-Dharwad

Nominator's rationale: These categories are one half of a twin city Hubli-Dharwad. The cities have a single municipal corporation called Hubli-Dharwad Municipal Corporation. (It's like the Twin-Cities Minnesota). Almost all of these categories were made by now blocked sock puppet. Mason (talk) 01:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Category:Engineering colleges in Prakasham District

• Propose merging Category:Engineering colleges in Prakasham District to Category:Engineering colleges in Andhra Pradesh

Nominator's rationale: A category for Prakasham District doesn't exist. Upmerge Mason (talk) 01:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Template:Pop-band-stub

• Propose deleting Template:Pop-band-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
  

Nominator's rationale: Stub template of unclear utility. It's only used on a grand total of ten articles, so it doesn't have its own dedicated stub category and instead just sorts those articles into the generic Category:Musical group stubs -- but because every last one of those ten articles features this template alongside a "Nationality-band-stub" template that sorts its articles into a more specific national or continental subcategory of Category:Musical group stubs, that means this template is adding nothing but unnecessary parent-and-child duplicate categorization. Bearcat (talk) 00:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)