Talk:1994 Football League Third Division play-off final

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1994 Football League Third Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 23, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
September 14, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted
January 24, 2024	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 11, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Wycombe Wanderers secured back-to-back promotions when they won the 1994 Football League Third Division play-off Final?
Current status: Good article

Sources[edit]

Play-offs[edit]

Tor v PNE, C v WW Not done
WW v C, PNE v Tor Not done

Pre-match[edit]

Guardian Not done
Preston FCHD Done
Wycombe FCHD Done

Match[edit]

Times Done
Observer Done
Sunday Times Done
Times ii Not done
Times iii Not done
11v11 Done
WWFC Not done

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Valereee (talk) 21:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Wycombe Wanderers secured back-to-back promotions when they won the 1994 Football League Third Division play-off Final?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dorothée Manski

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 15 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Needs a source.
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 01:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC) -->[reply]

"Wycombe Wanderers had gained promotion from non-League football when they finished the 1992–93 Football Conference as champions and as such were making their first appearance in the play-offs in their first season in the Football League.[8]" + "No further goals were scored and Wycombe were promoted to the Second Division at their first attempt.[7][12][13]" The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: I meant that a source should be added to the hook itself, per the rule/scriteria at the DYK checklist. A simple [1] will do. Ping me when you reply or have done so. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 13:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where do you propose adding that citation? The fact albeit spread across two sentences is fully cited and we don't need to artificially create cited text to satisfy DYK. WP:V is satisfied, right? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guess you're right as the criteria says to simply check if the hook has a source. With that being said, there are no other issues, so this hook is good to go.

Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:1994 Football League Third Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 18:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

a passing move from Wycombe — What does this mean?
A move involving passing? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't clarify things. Looking at the source does. I've amended the text accordingly. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

Darren Moore then scored with a volley in the 57th minute — It's unclear what team this was for until the next few sentences. Maybe something like "Darren Moore then doubled the score with a volley..." would make it clearer.
Clarified. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ellis scored with a header to put Preston ahead but Torquay's Gregory Goodridge equalised after going one-on-one with Woods. — Minutes?
Not mentioned. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Moore was sent off for punching Paul Raynor — Any word on what set him off?
No, it literally says "... was sent off for punching Paul Rayner." The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A goal from Stuart Hicks levelled the tie on aggregate — What minute? Also, suggest adding the match score (3–1) here.
No minute, score added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Raynor scored with a header and Preston progressed to the final with a 4–3 aggregate victory — Likewise, suggest adding the match score (4–1).
Score added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
caught by Garner on the break — What minute? Link break to Glossary of association football terms#B?
Done both. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
wrong-footing — What does this mean?
Per the Merriam-Webster dictionary: "to cause (someone, such as an opponent in soccer or tennis) to lean into or step with the wrong foot broadly". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, didn't realize it was a term that had made its way into a dictionary. Worth linking as "wrongfooting"? I'm not sure if linking words to Wiktionary definitions is frowned upon. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:28, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summary

Guppy's shot — Minute?
Sources don't say. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Bryson became the first player of the match to be shown the yellow card in the 16th minute — What did he do?
Sources don't say. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
an attempt by Preston's Jamie Squires to defend Thompson's strike put the ball into the net for an own goal — Any more details on this?
No, it says "A desperate attempt by Preston's Squires to get to the shot only helped it over the line." The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
a passing move from Wycombe — What does this mean?
A move involving passing? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Glyn Creaser became the first Wycombe player to be shown the yellow card — What did he do?
Sources don't say. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gareth Ainsworth was then booked in the 49th minute — What did he do? Also, maybe avoid saying "booked", which is jargon.
Sources don't say, and it's really not jargon, it's absolutely a fact. It's called a "booking". I could link it to the glossary if it's really a major issue. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Garner was then booked in the 75th minute — Ditto & ditto
Ditto and ditto. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
at their first attempt, earning back-to-back promotions. — This is repeated below. Any reason to have it twice?
Yes, it was for DYK. It's removed now. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Details

Missing time of match
Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

one place outside the play-offs — And how many points?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
losing at the semi-final stage — Anything to link to (e.g., the "Route to the final" section of the appropriate article)?
The relevant overall play-off article is already linked in the previous sentence. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

#2, 3, 4, 5 — Only 4 & 5 have archived links. But do the links actually do anything for you? They just take me to a page saying I need to register.
I use the archive tool on the talkpage which (I guess) is accredited by WMF. I don't do anything more than that, if it's malfunctioning then I guess a ticket should be raised but I think that's outside the scope of the GAN. I'll happily remove archived links, but it's not unreasonable to ask for registration I guess. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:33, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
#13 — Can you find and clip this from newspapers.com?
Replaced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

The Rambling Man, all yours. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique all addressed and/or responded to. It's quite common in the earlier contemporary reports that finer details like goal times were not reported in post-match reports, by the way. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, passing now. Two comments (including one possible suggestion) above. Makes sense re: details not showing up in post-match reports; I just figure that I'll ask, and if there's nothing to add then there's nothing to add.