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Welcome to the drive![edit]
Welcome, welcome, welcome Chris troutman! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.
CactiStaccingCrane (talk) via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?) 18:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
Notice of vandalism[edit]
Notice of vandalism, intentionally inflammatory headlines, unsourced content Pixel-Lead453 (talk) 21:16, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think that the intention here was to warn you that the editor reported you at WP:3RRN. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Russ Woodroofe: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SergeS18 Chris Troutman (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. Indeed, I should have started the SPI myself, but they are so overworked there, and I hadn't made the connection with earlier accounts. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Russ Woodroofe: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SergeS18 Chris Troutman (talk) 21:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Sexism[edit]
- Hey Chris. I hope you're doing well. Regarding this diff, I'd like to request that you avoid this type of communication in the future. It's really hard not to read that diff as "I wish I were talking to a man right now", which is a really mean thing to say to a woman. When I think of the impression I want the WMF to have of enwiki, I do not want that impression to be "the wiki that lets their editors say sexist things to our employees". WMF / enwiki relations have been improving, and this type of thing could be a major backslide. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: I understand that some editors are trying to build bridges with the WMF and I admit I forgot about those folks when I posted what I did today. I although I firmly believe that everyone associated with the WMF deserves every fair criticism, I ought to think more about the ramifications I cause to my fellow editors engaged in this diplomatic work. That being said, I think this was the last time I'll be posting to any WMF employee user talk page, leaving the task to cooler heads. I will say that I deplore the lack of consideration the WMF gives Guy Macon and Andreas; I hope others can successfully communicate those concerns as I cannot. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Chris, can you explain what you meant by this recent comment to a WMF staffer? I ask because I interpreted it to imply “it would be better for a man to have your role” which would quite obviously not be appropriate. firefly ( t · c ) 20:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Firefly: When LDickinson made her comment last year, I responded in that thread with a shorter and more-focused message, which I had forgotten about. (I only see now that Jimbo replied to me in defense of his employee.) Clearly, anyone who complains of feeling uncomfortable should not represent a reviled non-profit to that organization's volunteers, regardless of sex. I thought very carefully today before I posted what I did and couched my comments very clearly, thinking back to what I've heard Jordan Peterson say. Although I find Dr. Peterson's summations on the topic insightful, I agree with you that my suppositions about gendered differences confused the real point I made in October of last year, which is about competence. It doesn't matter why I think LDickinson is incompetent and I shouldn't have posited my thinking on the subject. While I often condemn many editors for their incompetence, I don't usually surmise why unless it derives from conflict of interest. Clearly I was wrong to needlessly surmise here, and I'm going to halt doing that ever again on these servers, and you are right to question my judgement. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 22:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024[edit]
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. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 22:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)In light of your block I looked again at this and realised that I was remiss in not commenting here. A number of your comments were unacceptable by our policies and guidelines. In particular your comments aimed at Valjean. If such comments continue I will have to consider a one way WP:IBAN. Doug Weller talk 12:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: What does my recent block have to do with that prior discussion? Chris Troutman (talk) 13:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- It reminded me of it. Doug Weller talk 13:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I had that tête-à-tête with Valjean, who was POV pushing with a COATRACK. Neither you nor anyone else saw fit to warn or block me for what I said, probably because I did nothing wrong. It used to be that Wikipedians strove to honestly represent reliable sources, not push the "orange man bad" meme. Weeks later, I made a truthful comment to a WMF employee (which I stand by) and I got blocked for offending the political beliefs of a particular admin, who was egged on by others of the same persuasion. I hate to put words in your mouth, but if you feel now that you were
"remiss in not commenting"
then I can only assume that your political reality has changed. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)- That hasn't happened. I have no interest in discussing this. Doug Weller talk 15:21, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- I had that tête-à-tête with Valjean, who was POV pushing with a COATRACK. Neither you nor anyone else saw fit to warn or block me for what I said, probably because I did nothing wrong. It used to be that Wikipedians strove to honestly represent reliable sources, not push the "orange man bad" meme. Weeks later, I made a truthful comment to a WMF employee (which I stand by) and I got blocked for offending the political beliefs of a particular admin, who was egged on by others of the same persuasion. I hate to put words in your mouth, but if you feel now that you were
- It reminded me of it. Doug Weller talk 13:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 19:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
April 2024[edit]
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. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 20:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)