Talk:El Piñal

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Portuguese attack[edit]

@Underbar dk:, this is a really nice article, thanks for the great work! The Cambridge History of China says the Portuguese launched a failed fireship attack, but had to stop when the Chinese cut their food supply, see [1]. Where do you think it fits in the timeline? -Zanhe (talk) 05:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks @Zanhe:! I've come across that passage too (interestingly, the Wills chapter from the 2010 book that I cited was an updated version of the chapter he did for the Cambridge History of China), but I decided to leave it out since Sousa's source, which is a full account of the Pinhal episode, makes no mention of the fireship attack. He actually contradicts that account by saying Paulo de Portugal was specifically dissuaded from attacking Pinhal, only attacking when the Spanish were in Lampacau (beyond the eyes of Chinese officials). Now, if the Portuguese actually did attack Pinhal and the Chinese shut off Macau's food supply in response, I would put that in the "Establishment" section, replacing the sentence "It was this worry that prevented the Portuguese from attacking El Piñal outright." _dk (talk) 05:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]