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Timeline[edit]

In the "Timeline of Lisp dialects", ISLisp starts between 1985 and 1989. This is wrong. The standardization process for ISLisp started in January 1992, with a WG16 meeting that considered

  • ANSI Common Lisp
  • Eulisp
  • Le_Lisp
  • Scheme
  • DIN Kernel Lisp
  • JIS Kernel Lisp

and chose, as a starting point, JIS Kernel Lisp + CLOS. Professor Tournesol (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

By contrast, my recollection is that discussion of international Lisp standardization began in 1988 in Paris at the same time as First International Workshop on Lisp Evolution and Standardization (IWoLES) conference in Paris. I mark the date from the header information on my paper, Interactions in Lisp, which was published at that conference. We had arranged conversations about an international standard in a separate venue, taking advantage of the fact that many of us had come to this conference. For all I know, the conference may have been created for that purpose, but it was at least carefully arranged to co-occur at that conference. Richard P. Gabriel was the US International Representative at the time. I later took his place as US Representative. X3J13 was the liaison TAG in the US. It feels like this original 1988 meeting is a better place to date the language from, since ISLISP is borne of politics and the politics go back to then. Wikipedia doesn't want testimonial data, as far as I know, so these accounts of mine probably carry no formal weight. But hopefully they serve to note we need to find appropriate records and/or be very much more precise about what these dates mean. I don't have quick access to contemporary records (though might have some in my house somewhere) in order to peg this any more precisely, but I think 1992 doesn't sound right as a starting point. --Kent Pitman, former Project Editor of ANSI Common Lisp and ISO ISLISP. (Netsettler (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Drop unavailable implementations[edit]

I suggest to remove the paragraph about the two unavailable implementations. They are not useful now any more, and they did not influence the history of ISLisp. Professor Tournesol (talk) 23:51, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]