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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 23:41, 22 June 2010 [1].

List of tallest buildings in Dayton[edit]

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Nominator(s): Texas141 (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Self-nomination. Another tallest building list, modeled after FLs such as List of tallest buildings in Boston and List of tallest buildings in Detroit. I believe it to meet all FL criteria, in that it is comprehensive, stable, well-referenced, well-organized, useful, and complete. As always, any concerns brought up here will be addressed. Thanks, Texas141 (talk) 20:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Arsenikk (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments:
  • We no longer start lists with "This is a list of..." or similar phrases. Look at the Boston article for an example of a good opening.
    • DONE
  • Why exactly 150 ft as the break-off point? I'm not saying it's wrong, but there needs to be a rationale beyond just some random number.
    • DONE
  • While I appreciate your use of metric measurements, there is a stray, non-converted 100 m in the article.
    • DONE
  • In the lead it says that the history started in 1904..., but the Reibold Building was opened in 1896.
    • DONE
  • Table column headers are not proper nouns, and only the first letter is capitalized ("Street address", not "Street Address").
    • DONE
  • It is normal to not alphabetize "the". Use {{sort}} to create a wrap around the name to force "The Landing Apartments" to sort as "Landing Apartments".
    • DONE
  • The description of The Landing Apartments is a bit confusing, as it jumps in chronology.
    • DONE
  • "Hub was redeveloped in 2010." sounds awkward. Is it "The hub?"
    • DONE
  • How about a separate, unsortable column for the references.
    • Do you disagree with this? If so, please explain why, and we can come to a common understanding. Arsenikk (talk) 16:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I previewed what the page would look like if the unsortable column for the references were done. I thought it made the page look unorganized and kind of "messy". I disagree with it for that reason. But if you feel you can create a column for the references, while keeping the page looking neat and organized, then feel free to edit accordingly. Thanks! Texas141 (talk) 17:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • The main problem is that the way the table is referenced now, it looks like only the notes are referenced, while in reality the whole row is being referenced. Most featured lists which have separate references for each row, use a separate column at the extreme right labeled "Ref" or "Ref(s)" which contains only the refs, center-aligned. I can't understand how this will make the table more messy, rather to the contrary. This would require the blank "notes" entries to have a center-aligned emdash (—). Arsenikk (talk) 22:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • DONE (With the exception of the blank "notes" entries having the center-aligned emdash (—), which I don't know how to do.) Texas141 (talk) 01:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Take a look at my diff. Add align center | — I forgot to mention to make the ref column unsortable using class=unsortable | I don't see why you need to specify width=50 for each ref entry, but on the other hand it isn't doing any harm. Arsenikk (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • As far as I can see, all the information is referenced inline and there is nothing using the "general" reference. This should then be moved to the external link and the hyphen converted to an endash.
    • DONE
  • How is the timeline referenced?
    • DONE
  • {{commonscat}} should be under "external links"
    • DONE
  • There is a link that points back to this article, see the disambiguation link in the sidebox. Arsenikk (talk) 10:39, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the general reference is missing access date. Also publisher shouldn't be in the title.—Chris!c/t 21:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • DONE
Resolved comments from Ruslik_Zero 18:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The article can benefit from more wikilinks. For instance, Stamford, Connecticut, Fifth Third Bank and National Register of Historic Places should be linked. Ruslik_Zero 18:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I do not see any serious problems. Ruslik_Zero 18:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • U.S. is abrivated in the the lead but not used anywhere else in the article. Spell it out.
    • DONE
  • The "Year" column indicates the year in which a building was completed. yet in the table it is called "Built"
    • DONE
  • Dablinks shows you have one disambiguation link, United Brethren.
    • DONE
  • From Often regarded as the first "skyscraper"... to tallest in the United States. is just a jumble of a sentences and doesn't flow very well. Try something like Often regarded as the first "skyscraper" in the city, Centre City Building was completed in 1924. Although the original building opened 1904, when the tower portion was completed two decades later, it was one of the tallest reinforced concrete buildings in the world, and the tallest in the United States.
    • DONE
  • ...including the Key Bank Building... removed the link Key Bank wikilink unless you can link to the building itself.
    • DONE
  • during which time it... take it out, it's not needed. Replace that string with Dayton
    • DONE
  • Add a comma after Virginia Kettering and explain why the building was renamed after her if you're going to have her name in there at all. It's kind of a tease.
    • DONE

NThomas (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - All of the issues I have found have been addressed. NThomas (talk) 01:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Wizardman Operation Big Bear 00:07, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Comment: Mostly good, just a few irks:
    • "The history of high-rises in the United States city of Dayton, Ohio, began in 1896 with the construction of the Reibold Building. Often regarded as the first "skyscraper" in the city, Centre City Building was completed in 1924" The transition between the two buildings is a bit jarring, and when i read the skyscraper part, i originally thought it was meant for Reibold. Reword it to 'The Centre City Building, often regarded...'
  • DONE (re-worded)
    • "Although the original building opened 1904," Missing a word.
  • DONE
    • "The city experienced a second, much larger building boom that lasted from the early 1970s to late 1980s, Dayton saw the construction of six skyscrapers, including the Kettering Tower and KeyBank Tower." Gramatically awkward, should probably be split into two sentences, or 'in which' should be added before Dayton.
  • DONE (split into two sentences)

Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:51, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "is often regarded as the first "skyscraper"" why, and according to whom?
    • DONE (cited appropriate source)
  • Two consecutive sentences starting with Although makes for repetitive prose.
    • DONE
  • "Kettering Tower was originally Winters Tower, the headquarters of Winters Bank. The building was renamed when Winters merged with BankOne" these can be elegantly merged.
    • DONE
  • "Known as Winters Tower" - no need for bold.
    • DONE
  • Street address, I would expect it to sort numerically, not alphabetically, i.e. 4. S Main St should come after 1. S Main St.
    • (I don't know how to do this. Help would be appreciated) Texas141 (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • You have one 15= and one 16=...
    • (Not sure what problem is here)
      • Well, if they're equal, then it should be two 15= or two 16=... The Rambling Man
        • DONE

(talk) 18:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1940's->1940s
    • DONE
  • 2300-seat->2,300-seat.
    • DONE
  • Timeline -> Since Wright Stop Plaza was completed in 1901 and is taller than Reibold, why isn't it in the timeline?
    • DONE

The Rambling Man (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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