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Eastern Thrace but not southern France ?[edit]

Is there a good reason for having removed southern France from this article ? How is it possible to think that a city like Marseille and an island like Corsica aren't part of Southern Europe while cities like Turin or Milan would be part of it ? If you put just a part of Turkey (Eastern Thrace !), I cannot understand why you could not put a part of France, at least the regions bordering the mediterranean sea (Corsica, Provence, Languedoc) --Matieu Sokolovic (talk) 08:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Southern France is obviously part of Southern and Mediterranean Europe, as all sources indicate. A British francophobe on this Talk page insisted that France below the Loire river should be considered part of Southern Europe, this doesn't match the usual definitions of Southern France though and moreover it'd put Switzerland, Austria, Hungary, etc. within Southern Europe. The correct definition of Southern France as in the corresponding article is the area below Marais Poitevin: roughly below 45.5°. I've updated the map accordingly. Dyadique78 (talk) 17:19, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Matieu Sokolovic corsica is part of the Italian geographycal area so it is indeed southern Galdur73 (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Status of Romania[edit]

According to Encyclopedia Britannica, Romania is listed under the Balkans article as a Balkan state. Would it be incorrect to place Romania within the parentheses following the words “Balkan Peninsula”? Moreover, in the introductory paragraph of this Southern Europe page, Romania isn’t listed at all, yet it is listed in the subdivisions section. Epitome of Creativity (talk) 23:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is Encyclopedia Britannica and why should it be relevant? Less than 5% of Romania is Balkan, just the area under the Danube River known as Dobruja. This is not a reason to put Romania in southern Europe, because it's obviously Eastern Europe. Even the Balkans map don't include Romania as just a very small part under the Danube River is geographically Balkan, and even the Romanian part of Dobruja, which is SE Romania, is at the same latitude as Switzerland or Austria and I doubt anyone calls these countries southern Europe. Romania is Eastern Europe. --84.125.77.224 (talk) 09:10, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Southeast Europe and the Balkans aren't the exact same thing. Southeast Europe generally includes the Balkans and its surrounding areas. For example, DK's Reference World Atlas also includes Romania, Moldova, Vojvodina (Serbia), and Cyprus in Southeast Europe. Southeast Europe is sometimes considered a subregion of Southern Europe, therefore, there is nothing wrong to include Romania as a part of Southern Europe. Vic Park (talk) 06:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]