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We'll...this is sort of like a disambiguation page, but then it contains commentary that would be valuable so it's not really a disambiguation page. I suggest a custom note instead. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 10:45, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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:That works. - [[User:Furrykef|Furrykef]] 18:43, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC) |
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Shouldn't the content about the historical concept of Columbia be moved to its own article, so that this can be a real disambiguation page? [[User:JoaoRicardo|JoaoRicardo]] 03:55, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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I think the country Columbia should be the first thing mentioned here, rather than the "poetic name" for America bit. |
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:If such a country existed, that would be a good idea. Perhaps you're thinking of [[Colombia]]. --[[User:Sneftel|Sneftel]] 20:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== Moved Content == |
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I question the complete validity of the word Columbia having its origin as a poetic name for the United States in its female personification because I don't believe the Canadians in British Columbia would have been too happy about naming their province "British United States (fem.)" I don't have a deeper source, but I will keep looking for more historical references to the origin of the use of the word Columbia. |
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I moved the historical content about Columbia as a name for the USA to [[Historical Columbia]] so this could serve as a true Disambiguation page instead of a mini-article. I also made Historical Columbia a stub because it is fairly brief while it is an important term/topic. I wasn't sure what to call the new page so anyone feel free to move it. |
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--[[User:Gpyoung|Gpyoung]] 4 July 2005 03:24 (UTC) |
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:Well, looking at the article on [[British Columbia]], it appears that BC was named after the [[Columbia River]]. Looking at that article, it appears the river was named after a ship, which could have been named after anything, plausibly including the United States. Therefore, it makes sense that British Columbia could mean the "British [portion of the territory around the] United States [River]", or "British United States" for short, if you substitute "United States" for "Columbia". - [[User:Nat Krause|Nat Krause]]<sup>([[User talk:Nat Krause|Talk!]])</sup> 07:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC) |
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::OK, I know this discussion is long over, but I followed those links. The [[Columbia River]] is named after the ''[[Columbia Rediviva]]'' ship, which is turn is named after the Irish saint [[Columba]]. [[User:William Quill|William Quill]] ([[User talk:William Quill|talk]]) 10:42, 22 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Columbia/Colombia == |
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Just a suggestion: How about ''"Not to be confused with Colombia"'' at the top, such as the one on the Colombia page? This one-letter difference confused me for a while, so I'm assuming others might make the mistake as well. I would make the change myslef, but I've never edited a page before and I would rather not mess anything up. [[User:69.234.104.249|69.234.104.249]] 23:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC) |
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As I'm a bit concern about the "originality" of Columbia, I'd like the mention of an "original Columbia" removed as it's stating this originality without using any reference. |
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==Requested move== |
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Columbia → Columbia (disambiguation) ''and'' [[Historical Columbia]] → [[Columbia]] – Since the current page at Columbia is a disambugation page, while the actual Columbia article is at Historical Columbia. --[[User:Yath|Yath]] 04:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC) |
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===Survey=== |
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:''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> |
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*'''Support''' as per nomination, makes sense to me. [[User:Jwy|John (Jwy)]] 04:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' - the historical use of Columbia is not overwhelmingly more common than the others - [[Columbia, South Carolina]] is a very notable city for example. The disambiguation page should certainly be here. — [[User:Sjorford|sjorford]][[User talk:Sjorford|++]] 08:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' There are multiple common uses of Columbia--there is no clear evidence that the use described at Historical Columbia qualifies as primary. [[User:Bkonrad|older]] ≠ [[User talk:Bkonrad|wiser]] 12:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' per the others.—[[User:jiy|jiy]] ([[User talk:jiy|talk]]) 21:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:Not moved. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 09:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC) |
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== To do == |
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A couple of things that still need to be done: |
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# Take a closer look to determine which entries really aren't plausible for a "Columbia" page. Most of these I could make a case for keeping, but "Columbia Valley Gardens", for example, seems to be an unlikely one for people to search for with just "Columbia" |
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# Merge [[Columbian]] into this article. |
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# Fix the [[Columbia automobile]] link, page, and associated pages. That article seems to have been turned into a dab page at some point although there are only two WP articles really associated with it; both companies should probably be linked to from this page, and the name returned to referring to only one of the companies. |
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--[[User:NapoliRoma|NapoliRoma]] ([[User talk:NapoliRoma|talk]]) 19:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Just to emphasize: although I admire the diligence of the anon editor 208.10.62.253 (but please, a few comprehensive edits instead of 150 in a row is generally a better idea), dab pages should not be collections of "things with ''xxx'' in their name." |
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:Just as another example, newspapers from a city or school named "Columbia" should probably not be here, as the key element of their name is the newspaper's name, not the city/school name.--[[User:NapoliRoma|NapoliRoma]] ([[User talk:NapoliRoma|talk]]) 18:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC) |
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==Move proposal August 2008== |
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I suggest moving the article currently at "[[Columbia (name)]]" to "Columbia", and the current disambiguation page at "Columbia" to "Columbia (disambiguation)". The name "Columbia (name)" is a Wikipedia specific neologism. -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
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==Edits== |
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The previous version of this page contained several duplications and confusingly overlapping sections. There are ''still'' some duplications on this page, but they are intentional, in order to facilitate use. The main point of the edit, however, has been to clarify the relationships between the various institutions named "Columbia" by indenting those that are named after a city, county, or other institution under the heading for which it is names. A few exceptions (e.g. not placing "Columbia River" and all of its derived names under "Columbia Rediviva") have been due to the undue weight of the derivatives. |
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As a possible benefit, it should now be easy for anyone who wants to trim this page to delete or move items that are only secondarily named "Columbia" (e.g., sports teams or newspapers named after a city called "Columbia", or many of the items named for Columbia University). I have not undertaken any such deletions myself, however. [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] ([[User talk:RandomCritic|talk]]) 14:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:The thing is huge;so much so it makes it difficult to use. Maybe I'll take up the trimming process in my "free time." Thanks for you work! (John [[User:Jwy]] [[User talk:Jwy|talk]]) 14:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC) |
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==Minimal List== |
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As an experiment, I made the below minimal list of links that *have* to be in a Columbia disambiguation page, because they all are, or might be, called "Columbia" simply; I removed everything that was Columbia XYZ or XYZ Columbia. |
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I suppose the list is really too short, and the ideal would be larger than this and smaller than the current list; but there should be some consistent principles developed for trimming the list to a smaller size, and determining what sorts of entries of the Columbia XYZ type should remain. Any thoughts? [[User:RandomCritic|RandomCritic]] ([[User talk:RandomCritic|talk]]) 13:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC) |
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'''Columbia''' may also refer to: |
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* [[2-4-2|Columbia]], another name for the 2-4-2 classification of steam locomotives, named for an early locomotive of this type called ''Columbia'' |
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* [[327 Columbia]], an asteroid discovered in 1892 |
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* [[Al Columbia]], American artist, writer and cartoonist |
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* [[Columbia (Amtrak station)]], Columbia, South Carolina |
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* [[Columbia (Arrow Lakes sternwheeler)|''Columbia'' (Arrow Lakes sternwheeler)]] |
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* [[Columbia (barque)|''Columbia'' (barque)]], 310 tons, 6 guns, in the service of the Hudson's Bay Company on the Columbia River and Pacific Northwest Coast |
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* [[Columbia (electoral district)]] in British Columbia |
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* [[Columbia (sheep)]], an American breed of sheep |
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* [[Columbia (Star Trek)]], any of three fictional starships in the Star Trek syndication |
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* [[Columbia (supercomputer)]], named for the Space Shuttle |
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* [[Columbia (supercontinent)]] |
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* [[Columbia (yacht)|''Columbia'' (yacht)]], any of several America's Cup race winners/contenders |
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* [[Columbia, Alabama]] |
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* [[Columbia, California]] |
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* [[Columbia, Connecticut]] |
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* [[Columbia, Fayette County, Indiana]] |
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* [[Columbia, Iowa]] |
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* [[Columbia, Kentucky]] |
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* [[Columbia, Louisiana]] |
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* [[Columbia, Maine]] |
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* [[Columbia, Maryland]] |
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* [[Columbia, Mississippi]] |
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* [[Columbia, Missouri]] |
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* [[Columbia, New Hampshire]] |
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* [[Columbia, New Jersey]] |
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* [[Columbia, New York]] |
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* Columbia, former name for [[Etna, New York]] |
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* [[Columbia, North Carolina]] |
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* [[Columbia, Pennsylvania]] |
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* [[Columbia, South Carolina]] |
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* [[Columbia, Tennessee]] |
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* [[Columbia, Tyne and Wear]], a neighborhood in Washington, Tyne and Wear County, United Kingdom |
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* [[Columbia, Virginia]] |
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* [[Columbia 350]], aircraft (now known as the Cessna 350) |
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* [[Columbia 400]], aircraft (now known as the Cessna 400) |
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* [[Columbia class cruiser]], a group of two protected cruisers used by the United States Navy, 1890-91 |
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* ''[[Columbia Rediviva]]'', a privately-owned sloop after which the Columbia River (and by extension British Columbia) is named |
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*[[Columbia River]], named for the sailing ship ''[[Columbia Rediviva]]'' |
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*[[Columbia District]], aka the Columbia Department, named for the river and its basin, and the namesake of British Columbia |
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* [[CSS Columbia|CSS ''Columbia'']], a U.S. Confederate (and later U.S. Navy) ironclad ram during the time of the Civil War |
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* [[HMCS Columbia|HMCS ''Columbia'']], any of several commissioned vessels of the Canadian Navy |
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* [[Lightship Columbia|Lightship ''Columbia'']], WLV-604, the first lightship on the Pacific coast of the United States, docked in Astoria, Oregon |
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* [[MV Columbia|MV ''Columbia'']], a large passenger and automobile ferry in the Alaska Marine Highway System fleet |
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* [[Space Shuttle Columbia|Space Shuttle ''Columbia'']], named for the Space Shuttle |
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* [[SS Columbia|SS ''Columbia'']], a historic excursion steamer docked in Ecorse, Michigan, United States |
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* [[USS Columbia|USS ''Columbia'']], any of several ships of the US Navy |
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*''Columbia'', a song on the 1994 Oasis album ''[[Definitely Maybe]]'' |
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* ''Columbia'', a song by Paul van Dyk on the 2000 album ''[[Out There and Back]]'' |
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* ''Columbia'', a song on the 2005 album [[Bloom (Eric Johnson album)|''Bloom'' (Eric Johnson album)]] |
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* Columbia, a fictional character in ''[[The Rocky Horror Picture Show]]'' |
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* ''Columbia'', the airplane piloted by [[Clarence Duncan Chamberlin]] as the second person to fly solo across the Atlantic |
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* ''Columbia'', the Command/Service Module for the ''[[Apollo 11]]'' mission |
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* ''Columbia'', a fictional spaceship in [[Wally Wood]]'s comic story ''Dark Side of the Moon'', published in 1950 |
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* ''Columbia'', a [[battlestar]] (fictional spaceship) from both versions of the ''Battlestar Galactica'' TV series |
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