Talk:Betsy Rawls

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Duplicate text in this article & University of Texas page[edit]

I am putting this here to ensure that text is not indiscriminately removed from this article. There is duplicate text in Betsy Rawls & https://web2.ph.utexas.edu/utphysicshistory/ElizabethERawls.html, as can be seen here:

Duplicate Detector: (enwiki:Betsy Rawls & UTPhysicsHistorySite Elizabeth Earle “Betsy” Rawls)

I think that the text may have been copied from the Wikipedia article to the UT page, but I cannot definitively determine this. Here is what I can discern:

All the duplicate texts of five words or more appear in the Amateur career & Professional career sections of a September 2012 version.
"won" was inserted into the sentence "She also the 1949 Trans-National and the 1950 Broadmoor Invitational." in this 2012-09-11T16:29:36 diff.
The whole of the "She also won the 1949 Trans-National and the 1950 Broadmoor Invitational." appears in the UTPhysicsHistorySite Elizabeth Earle “Betsy” Rawls article. Presumably this would have only occurred after the grammar correction.
The modified date for UTPhysicsHistorySite Elizabeth Earle “Betsy” Rawls is dynamically generated to the current date & time. The earliest copy at web.archive.org is 2018-02-27.
The latest dated item in the source code for ElizabethERawls.html is this image:
- Screen Shot 2014-07-08 at 4.08.52 PM.jpg
  - Please note the date of the screen shot in the file name, 2014-07-08, occurs about nearly 20 months after the text in question appeared in the Wikipedia article.

I therefore believe that someone copied unattributed text from the September 2012 article to the UT web page, even though the UTPhysicsHistorySite Elizabeth Earle “Betsy” Rawls web page contains "Acknowledgement: Thanks to Betsy Rawls for some of her recollections about her UT years and career."

Because of this, I believe that ElizabethERawls.html is not a reliable source because it uses Wikipedia as a source. We are not currently using it as a source, but we should remove it if someone adds it as a reference, or make a note the discrepancy if someone adds it to the External links section.

Peaceray (talk) 18:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]