Talk:Cayce Pollard

This article was nominated for deletion on February 4, 2006. The result of the discussion was redirect to Pattern Recognition (novel).

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Reason for reversion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liatach (talk • contribs) 22:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Claims that aren't directly supported by the text of Gibson's work need verification from independent reliable sources. Wikipedia is not a platform for making shit up. Skomorokh 23:25, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SPOILERS FOR ZERO HISTORY[edit]

Should this article be edited to reflect the fact that Cayce turns out to be the Gabriel Hounds designer in Zero History? Most readers would probably consider it a serious spoiler, but it does catch us up on her activities circa 2009. 24.145.132.195 (talk) 04:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Two points to note

1. Wikipedia articles do not include spoiler warnings; it's felt that anyone looking up an article about a fictional work will want and expect the full details.

2. Zero History does not outright identify the designer as Cayce, so it is not a fact but an interpretation, albeit a very plausible one. Wikipedia does not publish original interpretations, only those published in reliable sources such as book reviews, magazine articles, academic journals and so on. So far, I'm not aware of a reliable source that supports this interpretation, though if you are, please cite it.

Hope this helps, Skomorokh 04:57, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the illuminating reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liatach (talk • contribs) 07:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would point 2 on the discussion notes here: http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/pattern.asp (Gibson's official web site) count? Ecohobbes (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2012 (UTC)ecohobbes[reply]

Well spotted; that's very strange. I guess it's from the publisher? It's probably enough to make the assertion that Pollard is the mystery woman behind the Gabriel Hounds, but speaking personally I'd hold out for a source with a little more context for her quite significant role in the novel to do it justice. Skomorokh 18:08, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just finished Zero History and it seems totally beyond any question that the Hounds designer is Pollard. Every reader here recognizes it. There's no "intpretation" to the contrary - the reader is very clearly supposed to fill in the blank. The blank is a contrivance to keep Bigend ignorant, not the reader. Several clues were given - not for Hollis's sake, when the meeting occurs, but for the reader's sake. Come on - this is one of those times when the original work should suffice as a "reliable source". --67.180.106.165 (talk) 00:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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