Talk:Grantchester Meadows (song)

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Genre

I'm not sure what the genre for this song should be.--Clemmarshall 07:38, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose 'English Folk Song' is the nearest we're going to get, although of course one of the beauties of Floyd is that their music so often defies categorisation (which is why Floyd fans, like, say, jazz fans, are often seen as a particular group of people). Quite a few of Waters' early songs are folky in nature, and are symptomatic of his burgeoning efforts to be seen as a 'songwriter' rather than just a writer of music for a rock group. Martyn Smith 23:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that this song isn't about "an idyllic pastoral scene" but rather about someone in an apartment thinking of such a scene. Re: the line "bringing sounds of yesterday into this city room." In this context, the buzzing (and subsequent swatting) of the fly seems to make sense -- the buzzing of the fly disturbs the idyllic fantasy of the singer, and he gets up to swat it. This introduces a sense of irony, as the song is about daydreaming of nature, and a fly buzzing through the air is just as natural a sound as birds chirping and geese honking.24.165.10.71 05:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you watch the video it seems that Waters is shy with his input to the song yet Gilmour's chorus rings out loud and clear "Hear the lark harken to the barking of the dark fox ..Gone to ground.... See the splashing of the kingfisher flashing to the water.... And a river of green is sliding unseen beneath the trees.... Laughing as it passes through the endless summer making for the sea....., then Gilmour continues with his handy work into a guitar lead over top of the duet's tempo. It was posted that Waters performed this solo, not so, it was performed as a trio, two guitars and a keyboard, ok, and the background sound effects of birds chirping. It was also posted that it was written by Waters, I wonder, with the lyrics above and being in Gilmour's and Barrett's back yard, the scene is set for remembering relaxing days by the stream.

JohnnyB --209.47.31.5 03:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The album version of this song was entirely performed by Waters, the trio version was done live for television and is different from the album version. Gilmour has no vocals on the album version. And as for the lyrics, the Ummagumma album states Waters as the sole song writer. KearF (talk) 13:53, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dream

All this conjecture is silly. The song is obviously about a sleeping man dreaming of a summer day. The fly wakes him up and then our narrator whacks the irritant out of existence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.9.52 (talk) 19:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birds

The "birds chirping" is fairly certainly a skylark, but the goose honk mentioned in the article is almost certainly incorrect. More likely a coot, but no WP:RS available here... Shyamal (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am certain the "chirping" is a nightingale (singing, rather than chirping). Unfortunately I cannot cite a source for my view, unlike for what I believe is the incorrect assertion that it is a skylark. Nick Challoner (talk) 17:59, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

bullcrap

this song is most certainly not about a future full body immersion playback system! (pink floyd sucks) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.2.228 (talk) 19:59, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with most of your comment but not the bit in brackets. Every time I come to this page I think the same thing and everyone seems to agree. It's all uncited conjecture which the person concerned thinks the song is all about. It's rubbish and it's going!NH89.243.99.1 (talk) 23:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Lyrics

This section seems to indicate that Barrett was living in Grantchester. I couldn't find a source for that claim. Barrett was born and grew up in Cherry Hinton (and also lived there after moving back to Cambridge).Jokoski (talk) 16:37, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Sounds" Section Almost Completly Unsourced

This section has been here since 2010, originally with NO sources cited. Someone has added one source for the opening sentence, however the entire remainder of the section has remained unsourced for just over six years now. I am removing all of the section that remains unsourced, and as such should be considered pure conjecture and opinion. --SentientParadox (talk) 23:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved, nom and only "support" argument have withdrawn (non-admin closure) Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grantchester Meadows (song) → Grantchester Meadows – Unnecessary disambiguation, since there is no other article titled "Grantchester Meadows". Kailash29792 (talk) 05:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 06:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose named after Grantchester Meadows @Lugnuts: it's clearly notable and the other meadows mentioned have articles, and articles are mislinking to the song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grantchester#/media/File:Grantchester1.jpg Cambridge: A Cultural and Literary History Martin Garrett - 2004 -- Page viii 1902669797 "Its propensity to flood has threaded through Cambridge from the pubs in Grantchester to the Ditton Plough, a broad green ribbon of flood plain — Grantchester Meadows, The Lammas Land, the Backs, Jesus Green, Midsummer Common, ... " In ictu oculi (talk) 12:30, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Grantchester#Overview then? pending a separate article. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly, I have inserted a sourced stub which can easily be moved out to Grantchester Meadows (meadow) if we decide the album track is more important than the place. But either way " since there is no other article" is not per guidelines as a reason. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I now oppose this move, it would seem obvious to most readers that the song would be named after the place, hence WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:09, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Withdraw: I made this move request because "Grantchester Meadows" redirected here, hence it seemed like unnecessary disambiguation. Now that it has its own article, this move request may be closed with the article unmoved. --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kailash29792: no problem, thanks. It seems that Grantchester Meadows originally redirected per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to the physical place. And editor came along and pointed it at the song. So worth checking for WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs - that's why "no other article" isn't enough. Cheers. All the best. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I never saw the other article, even with searching for it at the time! Happy to withdraw my comment. Shine on, you crazy diamonds. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An article on the place didn't ever appear to exist. It was always a redirect to the song after the move, though it was in a place category for a while. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:44, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.