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Removing non wikilinks

@Stretchrunner: I have removed the non wikilinks in this article per WP:AUW Brudder Andrusha (talk) 17:33, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will revert your revert and here is why:

1) "nowrap" doesn't do anything in a proper Wiki adjustable table. A "nowrap" is for sentences to prevent unwanted line breaks. Suggest you read: Help:Line-break handling

I disagree. A nowrap in a table helps keep the table legible for those who need a larger font.

2) I link names when I know for absolute fact that the horse or person warrants a Wikipedia bio page. In case you aren't familiar, the reason is simple. When anyone prepares to gather info for a new Wikipedia article the first thing is to see what is already in place. One goes to their User's Sandbox or whatever working page the User has and types in the proposed article name with link brackets, i.e. John Joseph Doe. Then, click on it and a "New Article Page" appears for John Joseph Doe. On the left, click "What links here" and everything that was a red link on Wikipedia for that article will appear in a list. Highlight and copy the list and paste it in your Microsoft Word file (or what text program you use). Then, exit the page without saving it and everything at Wikipedia goes back to the way it was before you started.

Maybe that is your methodology but I disagree with you motive of knowing that an article is needed absolute fact. WP:AUW is there for a reason and I will continue to remove wikilinks in articles I update. If this is a problem then this should of been resolved long time ago in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing and a template of how events need to be displayed - but there isn't so thats that!

With your list you will now know that you don't need to spend time searching for them and importantly you also glance through each article to obtain more info that you will use in the new bio article you want to create or you may collect info relative to other articles you might want to create in the future that you can put into another appropriate text file. (Note, I have several thousand files, some small but mostly are large with info I've gathered in this manner) Plus, you will see other links in those Wikipedia articles that can save you a lot of time. As an example look at the time I had to spend on August 31 searching for and then putting in links in Seeking the Soul, particularly in the Pedigree Chart. Without an existing red link for articles we can waste a lot of time searching the Internet/books etc. Too, those red-linked Wiki articles can also have valuable information and you may never have known about and hence it's not in your new article. (Drayden Van Dyke was/is a good example, particularly because he was an Eclipse Award winner).) Important again to emphasize that red linking should only be put in place when you know for a near absolute fact it will get a Wiki article. Conversely, removing some of the existing red links is a very good idea if you know for near certainty that it won't get an article as there are far too many T'bred tables with red links that likely will never be used. (example of a big problem that sooner or later will require we do many delinks: [1] (Keep in mind edits such as this are always done with good intent which is why we have Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing but regrettably we aren't using it to fully benefit editors.)

Finally, after I create a new article for a horse race I ALWAYS insert the race information for any Jockey and Trainer name with a "blue" link into their bio article. That is a big job and sometimes I'm too tired etc. to do all or part of it at that moment in which case I put the race in my "bookmarks" and come back to it ASAP. So, when you removed those links, not only does that result in much more work in the future for not just me, but for others too.

Hope this helps. If you have any questions, just ask and I'll be glad to assist as best I can. Stretchrunner (talk) 19:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is no template I will continue to create and modify the articles as I have done so. Many of these articles have been outright poor and now that you are nitpicking and reverting articles is an indication that I have rubbed you the wrong with the way that I pursued how I see these improvements are effecting you. Maybe this should be brought up in the talk pages of the project. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 21:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussing these on the Project page is what I already said was to be done on that Talk page = a universal table in a Template style. As soon as I get the time, I will do it, As to "Rubs me the wrong way"?, Sorry you see things that way. I was trying to be helpful and to improve editing the best I know how. (EoD) Stretchrunner (talk) 18:27, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]