Talk:Isaac E. Smith

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Plenty of sources available: [1][2]

There is also an NY Times obit & another obit in the article history. A had to remove them because copying them wholesale was a copyright violation, but they are useful as sources. --ThaddeusB (talk) 23:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this over the next few days Fritzpoll (talk) 09:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of points. (1) NYT obit says Ike built over 100 Stars, however an analysis by David Bolles, the Star Class historian, of the published registries in the Star Logs shows 73 Ike Smith built boats with another 8 built by Sands Point Boatyard.

(2) The keel and plaque in Port Washington is in a park on the shoreline - near - the location of Ike Smith's boatyard. I haven't located the exact spot where the boatyard was situated, but there are period photos taken at the exact spot where the keel is located and there are no buildings there at the time.Dcsimages (talk) 04:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, if Bolles hasn't published the results then we'll have a hard time using it, although I suspect that it will be ok to use something he's written on the grounds of his being an expert on the subject, so that gives a bit of leeway. We could change it to "approximately" 100 boats, which is better than being wrong. :) - Bilby (talk) 04:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually there's a couple of PDF's on the Star Class website which list Stars 1 - about 5000 and their builders http://www.starclass.org/history/boatregister.pdf . The builders are denoted by a code letter and year. Ike Smith is S, so S-11 is one of the first boats built in 1911, S-14 is 1914, S-28 is 1928. The code for the Sands Point boatyard is SP. Bolles developed this list from the various Stars Logs published over the years. I've done a quick reading of the original registries in the collection at the Mystic Seaport Museum and came up with a slightly higher number, but as some of the early owners swapped hull numbers, I have to do more research to be sure. Dcsimages (talk) 05:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]