Talk:John of Würzburg

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Deletion of "See also" list of early pilgrims' reports[edit]

@Srnec: Hi. I know what you mean. But, if I may, it would be far more constructive to remove some items, and in stead add medieval chroniclers who help with determining the evolution of the Holy Land topography, human geography etc., rather than remove the whole thing. I was working at Bani Na'im, and John of Würzburg was quoted right after Byzantine-period sources, among other (Arab) 12th-century chroniclers. There isn't much material for the Early Muslim period, the Crusaders used Roman roads and place-names, Christianity also had been stuck in a survival mode during the 7th-11th centuries, so it's not so far-fetched what I've done. John of Würzburg will very often be mentioned in the context of those still early descriptions of pilgrimages and pilgrimage sites, and having the context readily available seems to me very useful. Creating a new category might be useful too (there already is a much wider category "Holy Land travellers"), but I'm afraid that users who don't go to Wikipedia very often don't look at that very last line on the page printed in 'technical blue' anyway, so that would be of very limited use. Please do go back and rework it, rather than removing the whole paragraph. Thank you, and a happy New Year! Arminden (talk) 08:59, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is in fact an article on Travelogues of Palestine that deals with all these types of writings. I think a navbox might be more useful than long "See also" sections at every article. I will try to propose something. Srnec (talk) 01:10, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Arminden: I have added a navbox to this page, but not yet to any others. What do you think? Srnec (talk) 19:04, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: Hi. I admit that I have no clue what a navbox is, and have very little time for Wikipedia right now. Fact is, I opened the article on my mobile and there is no list of "Categories", as there is one on the PC version, there is no "See also"... the article is now out of context and less useful for someone researching the subject on their mobile. That's all I can say. WP shouldn't be only/mainly for insiders who know the back doors and hidden shortcuts to more info. Cheers, Arminden (talk)

It sits at the bottom of the article, but you can't see it in mobile. I never use mobile, so it never occurred to me. I think a "See also", if you wish to bring it back, should contain other 12th-century works.
I also reduced your section headings to two. Maybe it's different on a mobile device where two sentences is a decent paragraph, but it looks way too choppy on a PC. If more material is added (e.g., about MSS), then we should create more sections. Srnec (talk) 19:12, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]