Talk:Judith Coplon

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"Technicalities"[edit]

The characterization of Coplon's appeals as premised on "technicalities" is erroneous and generally very problematic. The Second Circuit opinion especially is based on a foundational principle of American criminal justice, that no evidence which contributes to the government's ability to deprive an individual of liberty may be withheld from the defense. The use of secret evidence in criminal trials goes against the entire history of the U.S. -- I wouldn't call that a technicality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.137.175 (talk) 16:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Web link[edit]

Noel: Coplon is cited in Moscow Archives; that is the same link used in the Magdoff article too. nobs 17:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but when I clicked on the link (which was an interesting link, on other grounds) it said nothing about Coplon, except in a footnote. If you wanted to make the point about the Moscow archives, the 'Haunted Wood' reference is a better way to do that. Noel (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Let me place the text here for purposes of archiving should it be needed later:

Text: "Also, the limitations imposed on the usage of the CPUSA membership did not mean that Soviet intelligence ceased recruiting both Americans and non-Americans in America.19

footnote: "19. Feklisov, pp. 65-105; M. Vorontsov, Capt. 1st rank, Chief Navy Main Staff, Intelligence Directorate, and Petrov, Military Commissar, NMS, ID to G. Dimitrov, 15 August 1942, No. 49253ss, typewritten original; G. Dimitrov to Pavel M. Fitin, 20 November 1942, No. 663, t/w copy; P. M. Fitin to G. Dimitrov, 14 July 1944, No. 1/3/10987, t/w copy; P. M. Fitin to G. Dimitrov, 29 September 1944, No. 1/3/16895, t/w copy. All these documents are NMS ID and FCD Chiefs' requests for information related to Americans and naturalized American citizens working in various US Government agencies and private corporations, some of whom had been CPUSA members. The last two are related to a certain Donald Wheeler (an OSS official), Charles Floto or Flato (who in 1943 worked for the "...Dept. of Economic Warfare"), and Harry Magdoff (War Production Board)-the request dated 29 Sept. 1944-and to Judith Coplon who according to the FCD information worked for the Dept. of Justice.-RTsKhIDNI, f. 495, op. 74, d. 478, l. 7; d. 484, l. 34; d. 485, l. 10, 14, 17, 31, 44.

I believe this document is available in Harvey Klehr, John Earl Haynes, and Fridrikh Igorevich Firsov, The Secret World of American Communism (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1995) ISBN 0300068557. nobs 18:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Fitin sent an inquiry to the Comintern asking if it had any background information on Coplon. (Haynes & Klehr, Venona, pg. 158); fn 95, pg. 415: Fitin to Dimitrov, 19 October 1944, Archive of the Dimitrov Secretariat of the Comintern, RTsKhIDNI 495-74-485.

Right, but the stuff from the NKVD archives (quoted in HW) is much more definitive about here role than the query to the ComIntern (which just shows interest). See particularly the second page I listed in HW, where her name is given in clear-text (which avoids one of the common complaints of critics, that code-names are being incorrectly substituted, q.v. Hiss). Noel (talk) 21:57, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 11:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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