Talk:List of retired South Pacific cyclone names

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links[edit]

http://www.webcitation.org/5nnP9shrV - Vanuatu met http://www.pacificdisaster.net/pdnadmin/data/original/COK_PacificScience_2008_historical.pdf - Cooks http://www.webcitation.org/5noFP9TSI

Damage Totals[edit]

Cyclone Name	Damage total	Code	USD	Deaths	Year	Source	Replaced with?
Rosie					1970-71
Vivienne					1971-72
Wendy
Agatha
Bebe					1972-73
Carlotta					1972-73
Lottie					1973-74
Tina					1973-74
Alison					1974-75
Elsa					1975-76
Marion					1976-77
Robert					1976-77
Bob					1977-78
Charles
Diana
Fay					1978-79
Gordon
Meli
Wally					1979-80
Tahmar					1980-81
Gyan					1981-82
Issac	18.7 million	TOP		6	1981-82	SPAC BOOK - (Tonga only)
Joti					1982-83
Lisa
Mark
Oscar
Veena
Eric					1984-85
Ima					1985-86
Namu	20 million	USD	N/A		1985-86	http://www.reliefweb.int/rwarchive/rwb.nsf/db900sid/ACOS-64CLZE?OpenDocument
Raja					1986-87
Sally
Tusi
Uma	25 million	USD	N/A	48		http://www.webcitation.org/5noFP9TSI
Anne					1987-88
Bola	87 million	USD	N/A	3	1987-88	Ripped from article
Harry					1988-89
Lili					1988-89
Ofa	32 million	TOP		1	1989-90	SPAC BOOK
Peni					1989-90
Sina	10.1 million	USD	N/A		1990-91	http://www.webcitation.org/5noZ7IaNJ
Tia					1991-92		Tam
Val	12.7 million	USD	N/A			http://www.webcitation.org/5nqTTRoYD	Vaianu
Wasa	543,000	USD	N/A			http://www.webcitation.org/5nqTTRoYD	Wati
Betsy							Becky
Esau							Elisa
Fran							Funa
Joni					1992-93		Reused
Kina	88 million	FJD	50 million	3		http://www.webcitation.org/5nnO5fwvl, SPAC BOOK	Ken
Prema	60 million	USD	N/A	4		http://www.webcitation.org/5nqSQ3JLD	Pat
Rewa					1993-94	Rene
Theodore							Tomas
William							Wilma
Beti	3 million	VT			1995-96	http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Vanautu Only)	Bune
Drena					1996-97		Daphne
Gavin	26 million	USD	N/A			http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Fiji only)	Garry
Hina	18.2 million	TOP				http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Tonga Only)	Heley
Keli	12,000	AUD	10,000			http://www.ausaid.gov.au/publications/pdf/impact_pacific_tools.pdf (Tuvulu only)	Kofi
Martin					1997-98		Mike
Osea							Odile
Ron	1.1 million	TOP				http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Tonga only)	Reuben
Susan							Solo
Tui						Tuni
Ursula							Ula
Veli	2.51 million	SAT				http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 {Samoa only)	Victor
Cora	19.6 million	TOP			1998-99	http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 {Tonga Only}	Colin
Dani	2 million	USD	N/A			http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 {Fiji Only}	Donna
Frank							Reused???
Kim					1999-00		Kala
Paula	700,000	TOP			2000-01	http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4	Pami
Sose					2000-01		Sarai
Trina					2001-02		Tino
Waka	104 million	TOP		1	2001-02	http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4	Wiki
Zoe				NONE	2002-03		Zazu
Ami	6,000	AUD				http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4	Ani
Ami	104 million	FJD				http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4	Ani
Beni							Bina
Cilla							Cody
Heta	37.7 million	NZD	30 million		2003-04	http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Niue Only)	Hagar
Heta	90 million	SAT	33 million			http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Samoa Only)
Heta	950,000	TOP	480,000			http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Tonga Only)
Heta	50 million	USD	N/A			NCDC — American Samoa only
Ivy	428 million	VT	375 million			http://www.webcitation.org/5noEcWKP4 (Vanuatu only)	Irene
Meena					2004-05		Mal
Nancy							Nat
Olaf	10.1 million	USD	N/A			NCDC — American Samoa only	Olof
Percy	5.2 million	USD	N/A			NCDC — American Samoa only	Pita
Cliff	6 million	FJD	4 million	1	2006-07	Seasonal summary	Chip
Daman	500,000	FJD	330,000	None	2007-08	Seasonal summary	Denia
Funa				None		Fotu
Gene	51 million	FJD	35.4 million	8*		Seasonal summary	Glen

Merge proposal[edit]

Consensus does not exist for a merger to take place at this time. Noah, AA^Talk 14:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I would like to merge List of retired South Pacific cyclone names and List of retired Australian region cyclone names together and call it List of tropical cyclone names retired in the Southern Hemisphere. Over the last few years, I have mentally gone back and forth over the proposal at various times and have realised that merging them would be the best way forward. This is because there is a lot of overlap between systems in the two regions, with names retired from the Aussie list because of impacts to the Pacific Islands (eg: Jasmine, Harold, Gabrielle) and visa versa (eg: Gordon, Kerry, Sose, Yasi). I would note that the templates Template:Retired Australian region cyclones and Template:Retired South Pacific cyclones would be merged together into Template:Tropical cyclone names retired in the Southern Hemisphere if this proposal is accepted.Jason Rees (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

But that would include Indian Ocean cyclones. -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose This would mix ocean basin lists. The Australian list should perhaps just be deleted. Replace it with the existing South Pacific list and a Southern Indian Ocean (ie. Madagascar, southern Western Australia) list, and the western northern Pacific list (ie. Philippines, Japan, etc) -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 21:43, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes it would include tropical cyclone names that were retired in the Indian Ocean by the RA V TCC, but remember that there are no tropical cyclone names retired in the SWIO apart from Freddy since the RA I TCC only uses a name once. I would also note that some "mixture of the oceans" would have to take place under your proposal since some systems move across 135E into the Pacific Ocean from the Indian Ocean (EG Oswald 2010, Seth 2021) and visa versa. I would also note that Page 27 of the Tropical Cyclone Operational Plan for the region combines the list of names.Jason Rees (talk) 14:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - Some storms also move from the Atlantic to the Pacific, or from one side of the Pacific to the other. I don't see why a specific oceanic region article should ever lists storms that never occur within that region of an ocean (instead of a completely different ocean that never crosses over to that ocean). -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 00:59, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      We wouldn't be though since the title of the proposed article is List of tropical cyclone names retired in the Southern Hemisphere and are after all following the RA V TCCs lead by combining the lists.Jason Rees (talk) 10:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose They’re different basins and thus should be seperate, they also have different agencies tracking them 96.255.161.65 (talk) 21:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see the relevancy of this argument as the boundary between the Australian region and the South Pacific is not a physical boundary but a political boundary and is treated as such by various sources such as the JTWC, NIWA and the BoM. I would also note that it is the same WMO Committee that retires the names in the Aus Region and the SPAC Region. Jason Rees (talk) 14:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as per the above arguments. This is akin to merging the NATL and EPAC retirement articles, along with the Judy and Kevin situation. The SPAC and AUS are drastically different in terms of retirement standards. The AUS names would probably flood both basins. Infinity The Second (talk) 20:22, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There have been no comments here for two months. Maybe this should be closed. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 23:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.