Talk:Lui Kim-man

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I am inviting the Wikipedia Ambassadors to review this page. The page has been ruined. I am the ex-student of Kim Man Lui and I spent lots of time to get those references. If references in Chinese are not allowed, please let me know rather deletion and I try my best to look for English reference for my ex-teacher.

"Ruined" is subjective - and as you have an admitted conflict of interest in the article, I'd suggest you read up on those guidelines. Also, you should keep in mind this line that you see (or should see) every time you make an edit: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." MikeWazowski (talk) 06:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, Are you saying that students cannot write for their teachers? If so, I misunderstood the rule. I am sorry. By the ways, Kimman has thousands of students in Hong Kong and in China. Thanks, --Nofriends9999 (talk) 06:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, I do not want them removed without explanation. I spent lots of time to find them.--Nofriends9999 (talk) 06:57, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, This reference is removed. Why? http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=Evc9n7sV7W8C&pg=PA162&lpg=PA162&dq=kim+man+lui&source=bl&ots=twoP4AOlDE&sig=uZbKa80bcO7MDjTlp-wvalpVB2E&hl=zh-TW&sa=X&ei=8esXT4KfN8-WiQeD1_2ADA&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kim%20man%20lui&f=false--Nofriends9999 (talk) 06:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, This reference is removed? Why? http://www.du8.com/readsep/sep2j4i/7.html --Nofriends9999 (talk) 06:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, what is wrong with this reference. http://www.comp.polyu.edu.hk/en/people/academic_staff/index.php I just want to say that he is an academic staff there. --Nofriends9999 (talk) 07:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, I am his (ex)student but I am not his staff or co-author. Any COI? Do you think I will get grade A+ for this? Kimman is an author of seven books! --Nofriends9999 (talk) 07:05, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, what is wrong with this. http://www.amazon.com/Software-Development-Rhythms-Harmonizing-Practices/dp/0470073861/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327475301&sr=8-1 I was saying that comments to his works are divers. It is not an advertisement. --Nofriends9999 (talk) 07:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, This reference is removed http://www.china-pub.com/computers/common/Catalog.asp?type=5&IDD=198583&shuming=%u89E3%u6790%u6781%u9650%u7F16%u7A0B--%u62E5%u62B1%u53D8%u5316%28%u539F%u4E66%u7B2C2%u7248%29%28%u7B2C10%u5C4AJolt%u751F%u4EA7%u529B%u5927%u5956%u83B7%u5956%u56FE%u4E66%29 Because it is written in Chinese, if so, the tool google translate may help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nofriends9999 (talk • contribs) 08:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, Have you got a chance to look at the reference? --Nofriends9999 (talk) 09:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MikeWazowski, You knew what you deleted or you deleted what you did not know. It is difference. Am I right? --Nofriends9999 (talk) 09:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article/reference review[edit]

1. http://books.google.com.hk/books?id=Evc9n7sV7W8C&pg=PA162&lpg=PA162&dq=kim+man+lui&source=bl&ots=twoP4AOlDE&sig=uZbKa80bcO7MDjTlp-wvalpVB2E&hl=zh-TW&sa=X&ei=8esXT4KfN8-WiQeD1_2ADA&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=kim%20man%20lui&f=false

  • I have restored this citation, albeit using proper book citation format.

2. http://www.china-pub.com/computers/common/Catalog.asp?type=5&IDD=198583&shuming=%u89E3%u6790%u6781%u9650%u7F16%u7A0B--%u62E5%u62B1%u53D8%u5316%28%u539F%u4E66%u7B2C2%u7248%29%28%u7B2C10%u5C4AJolt%u751F%u4EA7%u529B%u5927%u5956%u83B7%u5956%u56FE%u4E66%29

  • I have restored this citation, based on the translation provided below.

3. http://www.amazon.com/Software-Development-Rhythms-Harmonizing-Practices/dp/0470073861/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327475301&sr=8-1

  • This is merely a sales page on Amazon. The information about the book is provided in the "Published works" section of the article, along with an ISBN for further information.

4. http://www.comp.polyu.edu.hk/en/people/academic_staff/index.php

  • This is a mere listing and doesn't provide anything new to support the content already verified.

5. http://www.du8.com/readsep/sep2j4i/7.html

  • I am unable to establish reliability or verify content. Can you provide a translation?

Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 08:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Failed verification[edit]

The following citations fail to verify content indicated.

Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 08:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translations[edit]

1. Chinese: http://www.china-pub.com/computers/common/Catalog.asp?type=5&IDD=198583&shuming=%u89E3%u6790%u6781%u9650%u7F16%u7A0B--%u62E5%u62B1%u53D8%u5316%28%u539F%u4E66%u7B2C2%u7248%29%28%u7B2C10%u5C4AJolt%u751F%u4EA7%u529B%u5927%u5956%u83B7%u5956%u56FE%u4E66%29

  • Chinese:雷剑文（Kim Man Lui）：在Kent Beckc的支持下出版了《SoftwarecDevelopmentcRhythms》一书.a最近得到中国经济出版社支持, 雷博士用心理和科学大胆地向股票技术分析的真伪挑战.a新书《假中寻真》说破原来想赢钱, 必先学会不输钱, 这才是务实的炒股态度.
  • English: Lei Jianwen (Kim Man Lui): in Kent Beck support the publication of "Software Development Rhythms" a book. A recent support by China Economic Publishing House, Dr. Lei boldly with the psychological and scientific to challenge the authenticity of the stock technical analysis. A new book, "false in seeking truth" to say it had to pay, we must first learn not to lose money, this is the pragmatic attitude of stocks. (rough Google translation)

Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 08:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance issues[edit]

I have removed the maintenance tag for reliable sources, while retaining the tag for self-published sources. In essence, the tag is redundant, since the sources fail reliability due to being self-published. I have removed the original research tag in lieu of providing inline tags identifying content needing citations. I have removed the conflict of interest tag due to content being revised by others not expressing a conflict of interest. I removed the notability tag in accordance with meeting the notability criteria for scholars. When there is a conflict of interest, a note on the talk page is sufficient to satisfy the declaration request. Please feel free to contact me with any questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 08:35, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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