Talk:MIVEC

why is this a stub?[edit]

Only nine sentences of prose text, so strictly speaking it could qualify. WP:STUB says:

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I'd say it's borderline, but I'm going to convert the list of current applications to a table just now, and I'll remove the stub template while I'm at it depending on how long the article is. --DeLarge 16:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring[edit]

It might be a good idea of the editors edit warring here actually initiate a discussion and discuss in a civilised fashion what they perceive to be the problems. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying, I'm trying. See User talk:Justin5117#Edits to MIVEC last year, and lately on my own talk page. --DeLarge (talk) 09:41, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its best to keep artcile content disputes on the article talk page as thehy then inform the discussion should other interested editors wich to suggest ways of improving articles. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See here for explanation. If an inexperienced editor (c.120 edits) starts a conversation on my talk page, I think the best thing to ensure the lines of communication stay open is to keep it where it is, especially where no-one else is involved. --DeLarge (talk) 23:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Far too detailed: MIVEC works almost identically to VTEC, Neo VVL, variocam, Valvetronic/VANOS, etc.[edit]

This article is far too detailed. with the exception of the specific mechanical details of the operation of the MIVEC system.... eg how the hydraulic system is controlled, where the oil is channeled into the cam system, the exact details of how the VVT system is engaged, etc. (all of which are *purely* differentiated to avoid patent conflicts).... MIVEC is functionally identical to everyone else's VVT+VVL system. The Valve Lift functionality is *never* different. All manufacturers adjust the lift by using 2 (or more) cam profiles that are switched during operation. This is the source of the ridiculous saying "VTEC just kicked in yo!" when at a certain RPM, the "extra" cam lobe takes over and the profile changes to one that could not be sustained at the low RPM conditions of regular driving. MIVEC uses the same principle, with a second cam lobe/profile that engages at a preset RPM. All of this information is contained within the Variable Valve lift/Variable Valve Timing articles.184.189.220.114 (talk) 15:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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