Talk:Medium-density fibreboard

Changing the title to match the spelling of the rest of the article.

It currently uses the British spelling "fibre." Should we change it to be more consistent with the rest of the article (and the rest of Wikipedia?)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.127.255.231 (talk • contribs) 13:14, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

The discrepancy should be corrected. A look at the edit history shows that both the title and the text used the British spelling from the article's creation on July 24, 2003 until an IP edit changed the spelling in the text on October 17, 2007, with no discussion or explanation. This was an improper move.

In WP:ENGVAR cases, it's only necessary that the spelling be consistent within an individual article, not across all of Wikipedia, and in the case of fibre/fiber, the spelling is not consistent anyway (see Fiberboard, Fibre-reinforced plastic and Fibre optic gyroscope). The title spelling has been stable for eight years, and moving the article is a more drastic step than fixing one term in the text; IMHO reinstating the UK spelling in the text is the better solution. Ewulp (talk) 09:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It should be "fiber" since that is how it is used by ANSI and ASTM. ^[1] and ^[2]— Preceding unsigned comment added by GosuCactu5 (talk • contribs) 12:07, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Both ANSI and ASTM are based in the USA and so use US English; many other standards organizations (such as BSI Group) use UK spelling. Ewulp (talk) 03:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

Checking for defects?

I'm wondering about the following in the manufacturing paragraph: "All chips are then washed and checked for defects." OK, washing is easy, but how do they check all chips for defects?!? 71.113.18.8 16:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wow Is MDF banned in Boston?

Well, IS MDF banned in America? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.6.25.172 (talk • contribs) .

Nope, it's for sale right down the street at my neighborhood Home Depot store.

Atlant 23:51, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a comment to the text clarifying that MDF is not actually banned in America. It is available at my local Home Depot in Texas as well. -- Bovineone 05:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Be very careful, I worked with MDF for about a year, carving and sanding it. Now I have real lung issues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.162.227 (talk) 01:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would almost certainly apply if you worked with any wood product for a year without proper respiratory protection. Hope you're OK though. --HandyAndy100 (talk) 17:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia in Main section?

The stuff in the last paragraph should go in a Trivia section —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.139.195.162 (talk • contribs) .

This is Wikipedia, so you know what to do: be bold!

Atlant 19:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've split the article into more sections, and that last paragraph is now in a "In media" section. Perhaps you think trivia is indeed a better name for that section. -- Bovineone 23:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The plug for Norboard should probably be removed. (6 March 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.149.233.108 (talk) 06:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hardboard is not High Density Fiberboard

It seems to me there is a difference between hardboard and HDF (high density fiberboard). HDF is a kind of MDF with a higher density. Hardboard is manufactured in a different way. At least that are the names we use in business here in Belgium JurgenG 15:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs

Not enought facts about MDF, like: MDF is cheaper than using natural woods, lighter, easier to work with, although MDF has limited water resistence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.240.189.101 (talk • contribs) .

Please feel free to be bold and make improvements to the article!

Atlant 13:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just came here to see exactly what MDF is. I've never seen an article with so many "Citation needed". Isn't it exagerating a bit? I mean, if we take care of all the CN, the reference section will be as big as the article itself! I'd go for removing most of them; you can't ask to cite almost every sentence. - Lyverbe (talk) 20:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, & removed many of them. The refimprove template at the top of the page serves the purpose; no need to tag almost every sentence individually. Ewulp (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup Needed

The health risks section needs expansion, and a section on sources and statistics relating to MDF would be appropriate. Or perhaps some (or most!) of this should be shifted to the fibreboard page...

Editing continues.... DavidDouthitt (Talk) 17:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the picture of decking seems wrong

The picture of the pink decking looks like plastic "Trex" rather than wood-based MDF. --Markhu 23:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found that interesting too, so I followed the link provided to the contributor's website, which confirms it's not MDF: "I originally thought that this material was MDF, but on of my readers, Paul in Brisbane told me that it is a product called "Modwood"." It Goes on to say it is "Made from recycled wood and plastic".--Adx (talk) 05:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

finition

"High finition for powder lacking"

I don't think finition is a word. Any idea what's intended here? - Dougher (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MDF a Substitute to Wood

MDF basically was created to be a substitute to Wood and Wood based materials.

In usage it is a mixture of all products- Particle Board / Plywood / Wood .

One cannot compare it with only Plywood or Particle Board. It needs to be compared more with Wood than any other wood based product for the inherent qualities that it attracts upon manufacture out of fibres.

Since it was substitute to Wood - Forest Conservation was the main idea behind the creator of MDF. The base materials of MDF are the short cycle tree plantations such as Eucylyptus and Acacia species.

MDF can be be carved like any other wood despite the fact that it is manufactured in board format.

Suresh Kumar Mansukhani - New Delhi- India

The article deserves at least a mention of MDF's main weakness--it soaks up water like a sponge. This makes it completely unsuitable for many outdoor & high humidity applications (eg. a kitchen counter top) unless special precautions are taken to seal it. The current first paragraph leaves the reader with the impression MDF is a man-made do-all wonder product. guy48065 3/2012

True but it depends upon the manufacturing process and the chemicals used for bonding the fibres to make MDF. If Phyenol is used than it may not soak up water like sponge whereas if Urea is used than maybe it would be possible. In India MDF is availbale in 2 variants Interior Grade and Exterior Grade. The Exterior Grade is the one which is water resistant and the Interior Grade is non water resistant- Suresh Kumar Mansukhani — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.68.190.212 (talk) 02:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

mounderboard

Mounderboard also known as light-density-fiberboard was invented in 2008 by Gavin Kelly after he munted his mum —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.202.83 (talk) 22:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WTF, this looks a little odd to me. Perhaps another look at this quotation is needed.

98.19.137.171 (talk) 21:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)Electrothump[reply]

MDF like Particleboard was invented to utilize our resources

Particleboard was a Swiss invention following WWII to utilize all of the fallen timber in Europe, especially in Switzerland, Austria, Southern Germany and France, which was no longer suitable for saw mills to process into dimensioned lumber.

The Fahrni Institute, Zurich, held the first patent and their trademark "Novapan" to this day circles the globe.

MDF came to be, as particleboard did not have an edge that can be shaped or profiled like solid wood.

Today in North America, most MDF and PB (particleboard) is manufactured using wood residuals and sawdust from sawmill and other wood processing operations.

In North America, VERY little round wood (whole trees) is harvested for MDF or PB production. 98.222.223.151 (talk) 15:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Jim Kinman[reply]

what is mdf used for

mdf is used for every thing nerely —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.46.94 (talk) 11:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Isotropic?

In my experience MDF is definitely much stronger in 2 dimensions than the third - even a quite small nail will split MDF into layers. --njh (talk) 03:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Comparison with natural woods" section that states that MDF is NOT entirely isotropic, and later states that one of its benefits is being isotropic. So, which is it?

I've changed this - MDF is definitely not isotropic due to the alignment of the wood fibres. --HandyAndy100 (talk) 16:59, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MDF

Maggots, Dogs and fury friends —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.43.64.72 (talk) 13:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sections deleted

Why these sections were deleted? Maybe it is worth reverting these changes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trolzen (talk • contribs) 22:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I am also mystified at these unexplained deletions of several sections of this article. And so I reverted those deletions, as you suggested. --DavidCary (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

mdf is (typically) heavier than wood

a similar size of wooden plank is lighter, more water resistant and more resistant to mechanical stress than its mdf substitute. and wood is arguably aesthetically more appealing. i am not sure if these important downsides to mdf are represented with due weight in the article. 80.99.38.199 (talk) 17:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Wood-wood doesn't come in four-foot wide sheets, ready-thicknessed and surfaced, for the price of MDF. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:37, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

...and wood-wood isn't necessarily more resistant to mechanical stress than MDF. Depends on many, many factors. For example, a screw in to the face grain of wood is much more likely to cause a split than a screw in to the face grain of MDF. Also aesthetics are entirely down to the end project. If you want a white bookcase with no visible grain then MDF wins hands down. If you want a solid oak bookcase with visible grain then solid oak wins hands down. --HandyAndy100 (talk) 17:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.compositepanel.org/education-resources/store/standards/ansi-mdf-standard-a2082-2002.html

[2] ttp://www.astm.org/Standards/D5651.htm

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