Talk:Navy Office (Germany)

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This article had to be totally reviewed. There is no linkage between the old Reichsmarineamt and the modern Marineamt besides the name. While the old RMA was a part of the government, similar to a ministry of the navy, the modern MA is a specialised naval command at a subordinate level.

Also there was a number of mistakes in the old article. First of all, the name Kaiserliche Marine disappeared in 1919, then there was the Reichsmarine and finally in 1935 the Kriegsmarine. The Treaty of Versailles did not reduce the RMA but the Navy. The RMA was dissolved in 1919 and there was a new Ministry of the Reichswehr (the German armed forces as a whole) with a navy department in it, the Marineleitung.

This means that the article was basically beyond repair, and I highly recommend to write a new article "Reichsmarineamt" only after much more thoroughly researching the subject.--KuK 11:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Existed in 1918[edit]

I have seen the term "Marineamt" used in documents from 1918. 82.229.209.33 18:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Elite Lieutenants"[edit]

Some IP keeps adding information about the alleged training of elite reserve lieutenants in its' cadre training units WA33 and 34. The IP claims to have been there. Therefore, here is some background:

WA33 and 34 stands for enlisted personnel ratings like SE11 for seamen and WAXX for different weapons specialists. This designator system is out of use for decades and has never been used for officers.
Nowadays the enlisted combat divers, similar to UK SBS or US SEALS, and the clearance divers both carry the designator 34.
The training of theses people is mainly conducted in the Fleet and not within the responsibility of the Marineamt with exemption of some general courses.
Given the enormous efforts to train these specialists no reserve officers or other reserve personnel are admitted to this kind of training.

Possibly this has been different in the very remote past (prior to 1970s) but nowadays there is neither training nor responsibility for the Marineamt. So my appeal to the IP is to stop reverting without presenting more evidence to his information. He could do so also in German or on my page in the German IP and with German sources. I am willing to assist translating them if they help to clear this case,--KuK (talk) 15:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]