Talk:Races of StarCraft

This article was nominated for deletion on 14 February 2023. The result of the discussion was merge.

Races of StarCraft was one of the Video games good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 28, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
March 27, 2018	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

Lead problem

Hi.

There appears to be a problem with the lead: Danielkueh modified the lead and I rejected the modification with a revert, as per Wikipedia:Editing policy § Talking and editing. But ever since then Danielkueh has resorted to counter-reverting to preserve his own version.

Danielkueh, why instead of edit warring do you not resort to resolve the problem that I raised through normal editing?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:52, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Generally agreed that the rewriting results in a quality drop, per your initial reversion. --Izno (talk) 11:26, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Codename Lisa, resolve the problem "through normal editing?" That is rich coming from you, waiting just another day to revert me and then accusing me of edit warring?! Anyway, did you even read wikipedia's policy that I cited? If not, then let me quote the relevant passage. According to WP:lead or more specifically WP:lead sentence, "The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what, or who, the subject is. If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence.[2] However, if the article title is merely descriptive—such as Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers—the title does not need to appear verbatim in the main text. ...." Let me give you some examples taken from other WP articles:

The United States of America (USA), commonly referred to as the United States (U.S.) or America, is a country composed of 50 states, a federal district, five major self-governing territories, and various possessions. - From United States
A book is a set of written, printed, illustrated, or blank sheets, made of ink, paper, parchment, or other materials, fastened together to hinge at one side. -- From Book
Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. -- From Science
A game is structured form of play, usually undertaken for enjoyment and sometimes used as an educational tool. -- From Game

Notice the pattern here? Thus, it boggles the mind why you would think that starting a lead sentence about 1) Blizzard and 2) describing some interstellar conflict in some distant sector without actually defining the title of this WP article is beyond me. If you insist on keeping this version, then fine, I am not going to change it. Life is too short to be arguing over this. danielkueh (talk) 16:11, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, hi. Nice of you to drop by. There are two points for your consideration:

Did you read the top of WP:LEAD? It says "It is a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply." And that's what has been done here. We don't follow the guidelines robotically, as you did. Here, there is a need to ease off the load on the reader. Hence, the first sentence has become an introductory one and the lead sentence has become the second sentence.
Requirements #1 of Wikipedia is: Don't hate the reverter. If you hate the person who reverted you and don't even bother talking to him or her until he or she has stepped forward, you are not Wikipedia material.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 16:32, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See point five of WP:BEGIN: "If its subject is definable, then the first sentence should give a concise definition: where possible, one that puts the article in context for the nonspecialist. Similarly, if the title is a specialised term, provide the context as early as possible."

No, it is not "robotic." It's just common sense and simple English. Currently, the first sentence promotes Blizzard and describes the backstory of Starcraft. The second sentence is hardly a concise lead sentence as it describes each race individually. Hardly helpful to a non-specialist reader.

Oh please, don't flatter yourself. Being a recalcitrant and creating your own rules is hardly "Wikipedia material."

Have a nice life. danielkueh (talk)

I agree that danielkueh's version is poor. I've studied a bit in the school about topic sentence, so I know that. Also, a sentence is orphaned and made irrelevant, given the position.

And he was edit warring. FleetCommand (Speak your mind!) 17:18, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Zerg mini-game on Google

From the Zerg section, I've removed this: "...Popular search engine Google will also trigger a mini game featuring the creatures any time a user searches the term on a computer."

If this was ever actually the case, please reinsert, citing a reliable source. It would also help to give the dates the mini-game ran. Thanks. Meticulo (talk) 12:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

It was successfully reproduced. See this: https://www.google.com/search?q=Zerg+Rush&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 14:57, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Reassessment

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Came across this because of the tag, but am more concerned with the sourcing and the focus. Goes into too much detail on in universe descriptions. Much of it is unsourced, and it needs to be. I put a few cn tags on, but that was more as an indicator than an exhaustive supply. Will see if there is any interest in getting this to GA standard before conducting an in-depth review. AIRcorn (talk) 07:37, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delist as per your concerns. Freikorp (talk) 11:50, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delist The plot sections are quite large and full of unsourced cruft compared to cultural impact. Article content needs to be extremely condensed in relation to the critical reception._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delisted per above. AIRcorn (talk) 05:10, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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