Talk:Retired numbers in association football

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Paolo Maldini[edit]

Is it correct to call Maldini's number retired if he is still playing? Oldelpaso 13:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I think we could post a mark (*) mentioning his fact, the number 3 would be reserve to his son born in 1996. --Jor70 13:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Gianluca Pessotto[edit]

Just a question: Has Pessotto's number been retired due to the fact, that he attempted suicide? Or is there any other reason? Because after all, he hasn't been the most remarkable Juve player ever... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.18.148.100 (talk) 15:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

Lucas Radebe[edit]

If Lucas Radebe's shirt hasn't officially been retired by Leeds then it shouldn't be on this page. The asterisk claims that his number 5 shirt hasn't been used since he left the club. Is this really that remarkable considering he only left the club in 2005?

Agreed Audioweevil 01:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Audioweevil

Retired numbers[edit]

Could anybody please confirm that France's Olympique Lyonnais retired numbers 16 and 17 for the deceased Luc Borelli and Marc-Vivien Foé.

What about the teams who have retired a number for their fans ? I know that Portsmouth (Eng.) and Lecce (IT) have retired number 12 while Norwich City (Eng.) has retired number 13. Any other known ?

Aberdeen have retired number 12 for their fans, the Red Army. I would add it to the list, but I don't know how. Swaddon1903 21:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of Aberdeen[edit]

Is it worth noting Hicham Zerouali in this article at all? IIRC The Dons had to get special permission from the SPL to issue the number in the first place, and it's unimaginable that it would ever be used again —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.105.219.66 (talk) 18:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone has changed the retired number for Zerouali to 30, which is not right. Aberdeen haven't retired number 30 at all, John Bateman had it last season. So I'll just completely remove Zerouali, seeing as there's no source to say that 0 or 30 have been retired. Swaddon1903 (talk) 18:34, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Sheva[edit]

Is there any source saying his number will be retired by Milan? seems unlikely. Hardrada 17:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Gianfranco Zola[edit]

Gianfranco Zola's number 10 jersey from Cagliari Calcio hasn't been retired. The year after he left the game, on 2005-2006, nobody took his number to honorate him, but this year, on 2006-2007, Andrea Capone will be Cagliari's numbero 10.

You're right, I've removed that entry. Ericoides 17:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Pele[edit]

im pretty sure santos retired his shirt

Jimmy Davis[edit]

Manchester United have not retired number 36. There were reports of them doing so at the time of Davis' death, but this season 36 was assigned to David Gray. Oldelpaso 11:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

How do you know this? Seems Gray is currently on loan at Royal Antwerp. There is currently no 36 in the United squad. Antgel 00:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I was going by the BBC. Oldelpaso 10:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Duplication[edit]

Seeing as there is a column for the shirt number, I see no reason to repeat it in the description. It's unnecessary replication. Antgel 01:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Fans[edit]

I feel that the gimmick of giving a shirt number to the fans is not quite the same as retiring one because of a great / tragic player. Rather non-notable, will catch on more and more, and become commonplace. I propose to remove such entries. If anything, there should be a separate section for this within the page, detailing the practice, and optionally giving a list of clubs who have done it. Thoughts? Antgel 01:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Strongly support. It wasnt the idea to mention fans when I created the article .- Jor70 03:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
The idea has crossed my mind before, seems a sensible suggestion. Oldelpaso 10:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Move[edit]

I suggest that this be moved to "Retired numbers in association football", since association football is the correct name for the sport worldwise and soccer is only used in the United States. --Acid Ammo 04:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Disagree, we had already put soccer in the name for the americans. Jor70 11:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
See Talk:Football (soccer), which has several pages of debate about naming conventions for articles on the sport. Oldelpaso 18:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The name of the article[edit]

Why isn't it, simply, Retired numbers in soccer? Tomer T 13:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Because most of the world doesn't call it soccer. I'm sure this has far more interest for Britain than the USA than Australia, so to use one of those countries names for it is nonsensical. Mankytoes (talk) 19:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Mark Philo[edit]

"For drinking seven pints then driving on the wrong side of the road and crashing head on to another car, killing himself and a mother of two. He'd only played 17 games for Wycombe but that did not stop them showing great respect to the victims family by retiring his shirt in his honour."

Although the reason for his death this is not phrased very well. Better phrasing such as "Died in a car accident" would be more appropriate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.37.6 (talk) 08:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Elio Corbani and Atalanta[edit]

In march Atalanta B.C. retired the number 80 for radio journalist Elio Corbani, I think maybe is correct to write something about [1]. Stigni (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Default sorting[edit]

By default, the tables "Retired numbers" and "Special cases" should be sorted by year of birth. SLBedit (talk) 17:32, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Or alternatively maybe by nationality of club? (it seems like this was the original idea but has been scrambled over time) Macosal (talk) 05:00, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
The article is about retired numbers so they should be sorted by number and then by date/year of birth. SLBedit (talk) 22:16, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Potentially, although the large arbitrariness of the numbering system limits how informative that would be as I see it. I (maybe this is a personal thing) would rather see, for example, which American clubs have retired numbers than which clubs have retired the number 14. Macosal (talk) 01:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
If not by number I would choose by career instead of country. Or sort by country plus career. SLBedit (talk) 17:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)