Talk:Richard Strode (fl. 1512)

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The Strodes of Devonshire are a famous tin mining family with a long history. They appear to have lived in and around Plympton for centuries. Unfortunately, as with such families, names tend to get recycled quite a bit. I did some extensive searching and discovered a genealogical record for a Richard Strode who was born in Devonshire around 1480 and died in 1522. There's little doubt that this Strode is from the famous mining family, but I can't verify whether he is the same Richard Strode who is the subject of this article. He is, however, the only Richard Strode I've found who was an adult at the time of Strode's Act. Verification of the birth and death dates would be appreciated. —Psychonaut 03:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His History of Parliament biog [1] is deliberately vague about his identity, but is fairly certain he was of the family of Strode of Newnham in the parish of Plympton St Mary, Devon, which family possessed one of the two seats in their pocket borough of Plympton Erle, which was subsequently occupied by many members of the family. HoP biog: "he must have belonged to the well known family of Ermington and Newnham in Plympton St. Mary, but he cannot be confidently identified with either the younger son of the Richard Strode who had sat for Plympton in 1437 and 1447...". He was probably the younger brother of William Strode (d.1518), son of Richard Strode (d.1464) i.e. "Richard Strode who had sat for Plympton in 1437 and 1447...". ". (see Vivian, Lt.Col. J.L., (Ed.) The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, p.718, pedigree of Strode of Newnham). As the HoP biog states, at the time of his 1512 bill he was relatively poor, but that is surely still consistent with him having inherited his paternal estates later in 1518 as heir to his brother. The HoP article seems confused in its reasoning here. But without a source stating that argument, the best that can therefore be said of his dated is: floruit 1512, when his bill was introduced into parliament. The source given above "genealogical record for a Richard Strode" is not credible as a source for his life dates. His HoP biog does not venture to give any dates at all for his life. It is also I suggest not an unreasonable rendering of the HoP biog ("he cannot be confidently identified with...") to say that he was "possibly the younger son of Richard Strode (d.1464)". (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 21:37, 27 June 2014 (UTC))[reply]