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Notability[edit]

Why is this particular village notable and why does it deserve its own page? Chesdovi (talk) 12:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because its a former Syrian village that was destroyed by Israel, its population forcibly transferred, and now it doesnt exist anymore.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 12:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is something pointy about the entire deal. If the village's notability rests exclusively on its destruction, then you are creating a host of architecture-obituaries. It's not far-fetched to assume that your main purpose is to place blame on contemporary Israel. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 13:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not exclusively, its a village that existed before in Syria, and now - it doesn't exist anymore for some reason. Why shouldn't there be an article about this village? Explaining what happened to it? and the people that used to live there? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There can be, on the Syrian villages page, it it makes it through AFD. Chesdovi (talk)

You do not decide this. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Conțești, Dâmbovița has 9 villages which are currently lived in. There is nothing that makes the villages of Bălteni, Boteni, Călugăreni, Conţeşti, Crângaşi, Gămăneşti, Heleşteu, Napclaşarea and Mereni notable in any way. That Su’heita was destroyed and its population banished as the result of war does not establish the notability needed for inclusion in Wikipedia. Unless there is something outstanding about its past history, as is the case for Serjilla. Chesdovi (talk) 13:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a list of French village articles, only inclusion in wikipedia is that they were destroyed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_villages_destroyed_in_the_First_World_War --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my response at What is the policy on villages?. Chesdovi (talk) 16:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like they support that the article stays.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. I suggest you get some sort of consensus for notability that rests solely on destruction before you start producing stubs for all the villages in your template/navbox. Otherwise, you could see all your work deleted and find that you wasted your time. As it stands, one could easily bring this article up for AfD. You would not want that to happen to potentially 100+ articles. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 13:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

source[edit]

There was never any consensus that the marsad document was not a reliable source, I have found several other sources that say the same thing as the marsad document, these being: Sakr Abu Fakhr, "Voices from the Golan", Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 29, No. 4 (Autumn, 2000), University of California Press, Dar, Shimon (1993). Settlements and cult sites on Mount Hermon, Israel: Ituraean culture in the Hellenistic and Roman periods (Illustrated ed.). Tempus Reparatum, and Humphries, Isabelle. In the Ghost Towns of the Occupied Golan, Five Villages Defiantly Wave the Syrian Flag Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, August 2006. User nableezy has also found that a nearly identical report by the same authors that contains nearly the identical information has since been published in the Yearbook of International Humanitarian Law, a peer reviewed journal published by Cambridge University Press (abstract here. Pantherskin, you have not proven anything in that document to be incorrect. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 09:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]