Talk:Tharizdun

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Revision[edit]

This page needs a little revision to be brought up to date. Some of the suppositions (such as Tharizdun's domain) are fan conjecture. The most concrete information on Tharizdun comes from the following source: http://ulmo.mux.net/greyhawk/tharizdun.html

Those 22 questions, answered by Tharizdun's creator Gary Gygax himself in correspondance covers much of the information here, as well as debunks the claims that Tharizdun was imprisoned in the Demiplane of Imprisonment. --63.22.171.173 (talk) 11:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all that page is rather old in its answers, and doesn't seem to stretch beyond looking at very early sources, not inclusive of the most currently published ones such as RttToEE, etc. Secondly, while Gygax might not have wanted Tharizdun in the Demiplane of Imprisonment, being a shared world, subsequent authors can build up earlier ideas and things evolve. The 2e 'Guide to the Ethereal' and the late 3.5 Dragon article that covered the Demiplane of Imprisonment might contradict Gygax's feelings, but they're published sources. Gygax feeling one way or the other, and any claims of those "claims" being debunked doesn't change that later authors developed the material in their own unique ways independant of Gygax (Gygax's post TSR novels present a vision of Tharizdun -and a vision of the planes in general- that is rather different from what developed in post Gygax 1e, and progressing through 2e and 3.x) The non-published opinions on that website and stuff in those novels might be interesting, but probably not relevant to Tharizdun as he was developed in mainline D&D sources. Shemeska (talk) 07:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tharizdun in 4E: "One rumor"?[edit]

...is bullshit. Now deleted. 74.192.155.210 (talk) 02:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tharizdun on plane creation ala Ahriman[edit]

In the 1999 Guide to Hell Asmodeus is a Serpent form higher than the gods, an elder dark power responsible for formation of around 50% of the multiverse and a lot of the lower planes. This would make Tharizdun a power, if creating the Abyss out of the elemental chaos, on par with Asmodeus under his name (as the guide to hell, if taken from its canon view, the interesting thing about D&D is that there are multiple canon's that are reconciled to one level or another) of Ahriman. So Tharizdun/Ahriman being the dark chaotic and dark lawful supreme evils pretty much. 4.242.174.226 (talk) 09:09, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if it's a good idea to make direct comparisons like that between second edition and fourth edition - wacky physics! 24.148.0.83 (talk) 12:23, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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