Talk:The Eagles (British band)

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Why does The Eagles redirect here even though the U.S band is quite clearly far more popular and famous. And for the record I'm from the UK

I agree, and I'm a fellow Brit. The Eagles should really be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to Eagles, with a message on that page giving a link to the UK band. Andrew (My talk) 15:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Eagles & WP:MUSIC[edit]

A point-by-point comparison of how The Eagles pass the WP:MUSIC guideline:

A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, hip hop crew, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country.^[1]
- YES. The Some People EP got to #2 in the UK and stayed on the charts for half a year.
Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one large or medium-sized country.
- Unsure whether the Some People EP was certified, or if they were even going the gold-record thing at the time. It was definitely successful though.
Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country
- YES, major 1963 UK tour along with Del Shannon, Stevie Wonder, and Dionne Warwick
Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).
- Not exactly, but one album, one EP, and 5 singles is damn close.
Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers (although university newspapers are usually fine), personal blogs, etc.)
- YES. Plenty of press coverage.
Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.
- Clarke continued to record after the Eagles broke up, and Ron Grainer is of course an extremely famous film composer.
Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.
- YES. One of the major Bristol acts of their day, and a staple of early-60s instrumental rock.
Has won a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno or Mercury Music Award.
- They won a Duke of Edinburgh trophy for their work on Some People
Has won or placed in a major music competition.
- Not that I know of.
Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that page.)
- YES. Some People soundtrack.
Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
- YES.
Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast on a national radio network.
- Hard to tell at this late date, although I wouldn't be surprised.

So there you have it. Satisfying one of the criteria would have been enough, and the eagles satisfy almost all. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:42, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ There are, at present, no precise definitions of a "small", "medium" or "large" country in this context. However, a very limited definition of "small" will generally be used, excluding only a few of the world's smallest countries.

Who Is Terry Clarke?[edit]

The article states that Terry Clarke was born in Vancouver, BC, Canada in 1944. Other sources eg. [1] say he was raised in the UK (though admittedly they don't actually give a birthplace). We also know that the Canadian Terry Clarke is a jazz drummer [2] , whereas the Eagles founder is a guitarist. It makes me think these are not in fact the same person.

What evidence do we have that the Terry Clarke who was in the (UK) Eagles band is in fact the jazz drummer who was quite active in North America over the same period? If the birthplace and birthdate are correct, then they would have to be.

Update: AllMusic (the reference for most of the article) gives a birthdate of Oct 16, 1947 for Terry Clarke, who has his own page. I've updated the article. It does make him just 11 when the quartet started, but the birthplace fits the other facts much better.

SheamusPatt (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[note-1] There are, at present, no precise definitions of a "small", "medium" or "large" country in this context. However, a very limited definition of "small" will generally be used, excluding only a few of the world's smallest countries.

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