Talk:Toccata and Fugue in F major, BWV 540

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"...sounds simular [sic] to..."[edit]

This piece sounds like this one fugue, and this other one, because maybe they both use eighth notes instead of sixteenth notes? Amateurish. Entire paragraph removed. Steve Shuck 14:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know what fugue your talking about! The of Bach's Dorian Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 538. Ironically, I mentioned that yesterday on the article for BWV 538! It's probibly a coincident, but you may be talking about another work, though. Go and read the articles for BWV 540 and BWV 538 for more info chuck. Aaron Pepin 12:12, 23 June 2006

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harmonic sequence[edit]

This bit doesn't seem to make any harmonic sense to me... maybe we could have a musical example or simply a reduction to chords to illustrate it? I can't make head or tail of it; it doesn't seem to make sense. "45 measures after the second pedal solo there is a dominant chord which resolves deceptively to the third-inversion dominant applied to the neapolitan. In particular, the doubled root is found to move outward in contrary chromatic motion to a major 9th; in the bass is a descending augmented unison, which absolutely could not be farther from the expected fifth. Bach implements this powerful deceptive cadence three times in the piece; it would not become idiomatic until Chopin and Tchaikovsky". Also, perhaps bracket that a 'deceptive cadence' is more usually known as an imperfect cadence for ease of reading. - Nessa Ancalimë ♥ (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only 3-movement organ piece?[edit]

This part, about BWV 564 being Bach's only 3-movement organ piece, is false. BWV 525-530 are all three-movement sonatas for organ. Leisuresuit (talk) 00:27, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only "thorough-going" double fugue?[edit]

"The Fugue is Bach's only thorough-going double fugue, where two subjects are exposed in separate sections and then combined." This is not true. BWV 574, while based on a theme by Legrenzi, does exactly this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:522B:1E00:6DDC:B3B2:DF53:5C4C (talk) 10:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deceptive cadence - placement[edit]

I'm not a music theorist but I believe it's at bar 36 (not 45) after the second pedal solo the deceptive cadence with the neapolitan is located. Don't want to edit the text without being sure. I used this score: https://s9.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/2/28/IMSLP355046-PMLP111720-LOEB_45379053.pdf Oortone (talk) 10:34, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]