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Bao An[edit]

I checked Nguyễn Phúc tộc thế phả (1995), a genealogy put out by the Nguyen Phuc clan. It doesn't mention Bảo Ân or his mother. I take that he is not considered a legitimate son of Bao Dai or eligible for the succession. The book gives Georges Vinh San as Duy Tan's oldest male child. Duy Tan's offspring are listed immediately before those of Emperor Bao Dai. Bao Dai's male line ended in 2017 with the death of Prince Bao Thang. So it would appear that Georges is next in line at this point. 99to99 (talk) 12:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why the coat of arms of the State of Vietnam is better as a representative image[edit]

Technically Bảo Đại was "Emperor Chief of State" (see his autobiography) and the State of Vietnam wasn't Republican, he even had his own Domain of the Crown. This makes the CoA more appropriate for the post-1945 period. The Heirloom seal was handed over to the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in 1945 while the dragon coat of arms was used specifically during the State of Vietnam to symbolise the "Return of the Dragon" (note that the earlier Provisional Central Government of Vietnam had a near identical coat of arms but without the Chinese dragon). This is also when the First Republic of Vietnam was created the dragon was removed from government symbols as it was a sign of Imperial authority. This is also a more abstract symbol meaning "Imperial Vietnam" rather than the physical seal which uses an antiquated name for the country that the Nguyễn Phúc clan no longer use. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 09:13, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]