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Why are "Coronation Street • Doctors • Emmerdale • EastEnders • Hollyoaks" written across the top? Why aren't they in an appropriate category? What makes them so special? --19:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.159.142 (talk)

They are the main soaps, they do not fall under any of the categories.Whoniverse93 talk? 22:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I notice one of the edit comments says: "EastEnders, Hollyoaks, Corrie, Emmerdale and Doctors are British soaps - not just English!" I beg to differ. They each of these soaps is set somewhere in England. Eastenders = London; Hollyoaks = Cheshire; Corrie = Manchester; Emmerdale = West Yorkshire. The only possible exception to this is Doctors which is set in a fictional place called "Letherbridge" which doesn't seem to have been given a general locale as far as I've seen. --82.69.159.142 (talk) 19:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Just because they are set in England, does not make them English soaps. They are British broadcast soaps, for example River City is set in Scotland and is broadcast only in Scotland (unless you use a Sky box) Therefore EastEnders, Hollyoaks, Coronation Street, Emmerdale and Doctors are British soaps.
Plus it's the British Soap Awards not English Soap Awards etc. Whoniverse93 talk? 22:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I came here to ask the same question about why "Coronation Street • Doctors • Emmerdale • EastEnders • Hollyoaks" are laid out differently from the others. Far from making them more prominent, to me it makes them easier to overlook. Visually, they can be glanced over as title clutter. Even when you do notice them, it's not obvious why they are presented in that way, unless you already know. I suggest they are put in a section called something like "Main current TV soaps". 86.137.136.203 (talk) 02:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC).
Since there have been no further comments I have made a change to the layout. 86.165.23.169 (talk) 20:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC).

Are these soaps[edit]

Are these truly soaps?

Casualty · Holby City · The Royal
The Bill · Heartbeat

The fact that the template feels the need to separate them out and call them "dramas" suggests a lack of confidence that they are. If they're not, then what are they doing here at all? 86.165.23.169 (talk) 20:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC).

  • Since there has been no support for their inclusion forthcoming, I am deleting these. 86.146.47.224 (talk) 22:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC).

Casualty and Holby City are not soaps. Fullstop. End of. (Although the quality of Casualty is little above soap level these days). Casualty and Holby City are both medical dramas, which is the generally held viewpoint of the two shows production teams. --DrPatrickSpiller (talk) 12:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It's a matter of opinion as to what a soap means (and not of quality, which has little to do with anything). They certainly didn't start out as soaps, but these days, with both running (pretty much) all year round, and with long-running melodramatic storylines, most of the viewing public (and, I suspect, the majority of references on the web) might group them as soaps. I'm afraid your assertion of "Fullstop. End of." is not necessarily the final word :) Examples from the BBC News (2001): [1] (2004): [2] and a TV mag (2007): [3]. That said, BAFTA etc. uses the fig-leaf of "continuing drama" so I won't revert your removal..! :) Stephenb (Talk) 19:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)