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Symmes Purchase has no mention of native nations.

Baker (VA) and White's Station (near the Little Miami) Station[edit]

???

DsS[edit]

Winters attacks unusual - overconfident? Slight miscalculation of speed of retreat insode foart? Weather more important than lack of siege weapons.

Add Olden!

How long would it take to butcher the cattle?

Drop the 1690 reference?

Significance of 1795 abandonment? Ordinary homes OK after the war ended...

Any source referencing Savages, like Cone, must be suspect.

What is wrong with the St Clair, Harmar & "Geometry" notes??

J said- No native context or names. Brave, commendable white men portrayed. Literate victors wrote stories. Explain trading and shared meals.

--- Torture story is a 'tradition,' not a myth or fable. It had the power of popular belief. "an inherited or established way of thinking, feeling, or doing <the town tradition of having the oldest resident ride at the head of the parade>." "Myths are often stories of supernatural beings and of a timeless past so there is no objective proof. Myths may go on to explaing things like: The evolution of man, he presence of the sun etc but since there isn't any subjective truth to support them. They also do not have any time frame attached to them to prove their time line.

Legends are stories based on historical events or a person and hence usually have a time frame to them. They're said to be stories about real people and not supernatural beings.

Legends can be related to a certain chronology of events with reference to present events while myths cannot be organised into present day chronology of events."

Fables are made-up stories... ---

Neither side were simply pacific, innocent civilians or rapacious genocidal barbarians... But War is Hell! All groups are variously friends and enemies, competitors and cooperators. There is a universal need for often-scarce resources. Usufruct Law implies ???


Biographical and Historical Sketches: A Narrative of Hamilton and Its Residents from 1792, 2 Vols. Cone wrote that Fort Finney [1?] was built in 1785, and it's Treaty signed the following year on July 31st. Prone to flooding.


Course changed in great flood of???

Proximate Cause[edit]

Cone called this a surveying party...

After a short surveying trip across the Great Miami River, a small number of men were killed & scalped.

Sadistic pleasure...

Vengeance...

This was despite respectful gestures having been given both sides.

Background[edit]

Farmers hoped to have a surplus to sell one day...

Dunlap's Station was physically located between the large Fort Washington to the South-East, and Fort Hamilton (2) which was later erected just to the North-West.

Obviously the end of the Revolutionary War and the American-European Treaty of Paris in 1783 set the stage, particularly as the Shawnee and other native owners of what we now call South-West Ohio were not even invited. Politically, Fort Coleraine arose between the Treaty proposal of Fort Finney (1786) and The ultimate Treaty of Greenville (1795). More specifically, Harmar's and St. Clair's Defeats in 1790 & 1791, had been big native victories; thus, surviving the Siege was a significant accomplishment.

Dunlap laid this out (without proper survey?) in Spring 1790. By the Fall of 1791, the 11 original families had built 3 stockhouses, their cabins and a covered Grinder. At that time, they were supplemented by 50? Troops who fortified the rough construction...

In 1763, the European royals divided N America in four main zones for the British, the French the Spanish, and all the rest.[1]

The settlers of the Ohio also fought to protect their outposts in this 'New World.' [2]

[Anything written between about 1820 and 1950 must be reviewed very carefully. First, the participants had died, and second was the the known hagiography.]

[The Winter of 1790-1791 was a record cold one. http://www.fitzhughwilliams.org/scrangers/stories/big_bottom.html]

[Are Cone's sources, especially for the Blue Jacket interview, available?]

These decisions decades earlier by people not even there, led inexorably to the Siege.

"Mingos have also been called "Ohio Iroquois" and "Ohio Seneca". " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingo

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ The accepted International law was the Right of Conquest. It seems the Natives had similar practices.
  2. ^ Sixty Years' War

HowTo[edit]

I'm happy that you're working on this and will help when I can. I will take a look at it when I have some time. At first glance, you'll need an introductory paragraph summing up what the article is about. "The siege of Dunlap's Station took place on such a date during the Nortwest Indian War.... It came about because.... The result was ...." See WP:Lede. —Kevin Myers 20:52, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Big Miami Reserve[edit]

This was the largest Native Reservation in Indiana... Long after the annihilation of them as a military threat?

Big Bottom Massacre[edit]

[help with this?] Fictional Illustration from racist book Donation Land was "buffer" between white and hostile natives. Cannon fodder? Settlers were single men with no experience...