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Hermann Bottcher[edit]

Interested to talk about Capt. Hermann Bottcher. I am behind the archive- I have tons of info on Capt. Bottcher but not good at internet or wiki postings. please write back. I also have interests in 32nd ID.

Stephen T. "Esteban" Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by EstebanMartin (talkcontribs) 22:29, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer of help. My father John Francis Sullivan was a member of the 107th Quartermaster Company, 126th Infantry Regiment, 32nd ID, thus my interest. You've already made substantial contributions to the article, I suggest you continue to add the info you have. Whatever the source of your info, be sure they quality, reliable, preferably published sources. Then I or others can add on to or improve it. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 18:39, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

thanks for writing back to me and making a connection. That's great your father was in the 32nd ID. I salute him for his service and you for being his son. very cool and happy to meet you full and official. I am fascinated with the Buna operation and ran across Herman Bottcher back in the 1980's while taking night history class. When you look at the story of the 32nd there is soo much there. I have tried to explain the Kokoda track operation to folks and their eyes glaze over! I have to work on my presentation. Since you are 32nd ID hand you may like this link to HB's 201 file I was able to get from St Lo. (I had to go in person to scan the thing). Reads like a who's who of the pacific Theater. write back when you have a chance...Stephen

EstebanMartin (talk) 03:04, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Stephen -- Thanks for the sharing the link. It's really interesting to read the real-time correspondence about Capt. Bottcher's actions and life on the front. What a treasure trove of information. You really ought to add details about the action that led to the capture of Buna-Gona wedge and his patrols during the Battle of Leyte. For example, you ought to cite the info on his Legion of Merit award.
Was his aunt his only U.S. relatives? Where did his parents live? — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 23:15, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

hello sorry to be getting back late. How are you?! Love this topic. In answer to your question: Hermann's parents where from Landsberg, Prussia (german) now part of poland. He was orphaned and came to the states following his fathers brother at about the age of 21 or 22 yrs- the aunt was only an aunt by marriage. He was alone except for this woman and her daughter (his first cousin) who was 12 years old when he was killed in leyte. I have bunch of info on his last battle. maybe better contact me at, hope talk to you soonEstebanMartin (talk) 03:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Please write back I understand your on hiatus from wiki but liek to chat off line regarding your BUNA NG work and ideasEstebanMartin (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Please click the "eMail" link in the toolbar above to send me a message with your email address and/or your Facebook username. As I've said above, you've already done a good job of adding content to the Herman Bottcher article, and I encourage you to continue that effort. I would be happy afterward to apply my editing skills to your contribution to bring it more in keeping with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 06:40, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

sorry, BT![edit]

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Sorry to see that you have left Wikipedia, BTphelps! I have not edited for many months but for one here or there and was surprised to see notice of your departure. I left some material for you here earlier (the "crap" you deleted, I guess), out of respect for your contribution to the GA-nominee in question, but of course am very sorry that the conditions are not right for you at present to be involved. It's inevitable that I am curious and so wonder if I was in any way responsible for your souring on Wikipedia ... I hope not b/c I try to avoid conflict and really avoid politics/administration. Your enthusiasm and dedication are a loss to the Wikipedia, no doubt and I am disappointed to see such a senior editor leave (and again I wonder if I somehow contributed??). I hope that you can return though someday... Be well, but before you go, please have a beer on me. Cheers. Azx2 11:57, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Absent, but not gone. Thanks for the good wishes. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 00:17, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Nightlight Christian Adoptions[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your additions to Nightlight Christian Adoptions, especially the references. Please note that this article uses the Bluebook citation style, and that the CS1 templates are not compatible with that style. You can find information on this citation style at Introduction to Basic Legal Citation (online ed. 2013), hosted by Cornell Law School. Again, thanks, GregJackP Boomer! 23:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not at all familiar with this citation style. This citation method and styling appears pretty awkward to me, and I've always used the citation wizard provided in the WP toolbar. I'll probably be making more contributions to the article, so forgive me if I don't get it right each time. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 06:40, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Kursk disaster[edit]

Hi. I've been reading the Kursk article and I have to say it's looking really good. Night and day compared to where it was when you started working on it. Thanks for the invite to come back and take a look, it's always good to see an article progress and this is a really interesting story. I've done a bit of copyediting but really it's probably mostly me rephrasing stuff to my personal taste and not adding a lot because there's not a lot left to add! There's a few little bits and pieces like the day/date formats seem a bit inconsistent from section to section but that's nitpicking really. I'm intrigued to see how it is rated on its next review. It's got to be knocking on the door of GA and I think given the subject matter would make a good candidate for a feature. Excellent work! danno_uk 21:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the generous praise and your copy edits. They are helpful. It's funny how a subject matter trips you up and you get hooked into it. A fascinating story. I'm putting a bit more work into it and will invite you back for a look see soon. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 22:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Agreed on the subject matter thing. My most recent article, Evans Quinn, is about a Nicaraguan boxer. I have no particular interest in either boxing or Nicaragua but the story itself is so extraordinary that I couldn't not write an article about it. danno_uk 00:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. I appreciate that you're still developing the article but just flagging up this part of the "Practice torpedo explodes" section:

"According to an article briefly published on the web site of the official newspaper of the Russian Defence Ministry, Krasnaya Zvezda, the Kursk had been refitted in 1998 to carry new torpedoes using the inexpensive, cheap fuel. Some specialists in the Russian Navy opposed their use because they were volatile and dangerous. The next day, the article was modified that speculated the submarine had collided with an "unidentified object." Vice-premier Ilya Klebanov, chair of the Russian government investigating the accident, had a vested interest in suggesting the disaster had been caused by a collision with a NATO vessel. As head of the defence industries he had promoted use of the liquid fueled torpedoes over the safer and more expensive silver-zinc battery-powered torpedoes.

But the cash-strapped Russian Navy continued to use the design because the fuel is very inexpensive."

It seems like some of the flow of this section has been lost in an edit somewhere. The last sentence is a rebuttal of something, but not the sentence that now precedes it. The part about the Krasnaya Zvezda article doesn't specify when it appeared and was subsequently amended a day later, making it difficult to place in the chronology (although potentially I imagine that it's difficult to get a date for). Also, "the article was modified that speculated the submarine..." doesn't make sense. That bit I could probably fix, but without the surrounding context I don't think it would necessarily be an improvement! Please don't take this as criticism of your work on the article which continues to be excellent, just trying to highlight some areas that you've probably looked at so often that your eye now slides over them (god knows I've been there!). danno_uk 00:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
No offense taken. I'm a bit cross-eyed after working on this for a while (212 edits). I'll take a look at these specific instances and see what I can do to fix them. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 00:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
OK, I had a stab at improving it. Take a look. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 01:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
If I could edit that well, that fast, I'd own this encyclopaedia by now : ( danno_uk 01:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 20:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
@danno uk, feel free to reevaluate the article's class and make any recommendations for improvement on the article's talk page. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 03:34, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

An RfC that you may be interested in...[edit]

As one of the previous contributors to {{Infobox film}} or as one of the commenters on it's talk page, I would like to inform you that there has been a RfC started on the talk page as to implementation of previously deprecated parameters. Your comments and thoughts on the matter would be welcomed. Happy editing!

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Discussion at Category talk:Arizona pioneers[edit]


As you are one of the few Wikipedians who regularly deals with the people and events of Arizona Territory, you might be interested in the discussion at Category talk:Arizona pioneers#Definition. --Allen3 talk 23:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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Thank you for quality articles on heroic and devoted people, such as the longest search and rescue operation of the Vietnam War, and Richard Phelps, and for a heart-warming campfire, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (4 November 2009)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 482nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 22:33, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Hungarian revolution of 1848[edit]

Segíthetnél rendbeszedni a cikket. Különösen a Military events szekciót kellene röviden tömören, de átfogóan megszerkeszteni. Ha ez megvan a "Hungarian revolution of 1848" cikkben, azután kellene majd két külön bővebb új wiki cikket nyittani a Téli és a Tavaszi hadjáratról is. Több magyar wiki szerkesztő között kellene felosztani a feladatot.

Válaszodat előre is köszönöm!--Bwatzuk (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't speak Hungarian. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 18:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Far West[edit]

Thank you for your contribution in the ca:Far West page.--Climent Sostres (talk) 17:15, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

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O.K. Corral (building)[edit]

Hi, you seem to have an interest in and fairly decent knowledge of old west history. With regard to the O.K. Corral article, can't you come up with something better than a tourist website for a source? The explanation you give seems tenuous as best, but using the etymology of the term O.K. content just screams of WP:SYNTH. I quoted an old west historian, and a respected one, Robert Bell. Your thoughts? --SChotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 02:28, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Tourist site? Have you read the latest version? The author of the source cited is a PhD and the article, sourcing the phrase from the Choctaw language, is extremely credible. And in any case, where does Bob Bell get his info? — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 08:08, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

In the first paragraph of the "Origins" section the last 2 paragraphs states, "John Montgomery adopted the phrase as part of his business name when he and Benson opened the business in 1879. Montgomery bought Benson out in 1882 and operated the business for at least another six years.[1]" This is the "tourist website" and does not make a connection to the term O.K. or its etymology.

At that point the previous 2 sentences are interesting, but not related to the subject matter. As well sourced as it might be, this is WP:SYNTH and possibly WP:OR.

Robert Bell a.k.a. Bob Boze Bell is an artist and old west historian and one of the owners of True West magazine. He has spent decades researching and reviewing the original documents, memorabilia, and artifacts related to historical events. I have more faith in his research than a tourist website. --SChotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:16, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ "The O.K. Corral". Archived from the original on April 10, 2013. Retrieved 24 September 2014. 

BTW, I appreciate what you done with the article. I think its developed really nicely since I created it. --SChotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 15:19, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad you like most of the contributions I made. We know when he bought the business he named it the OK Corral. That's pretty much indisputable.
I'm not sure what issue you are trying to resolve. Is it the explanation of OK in the Choctaw language? I don't think the article implies that Montgomery named it the OK Corral because he knew it was originally used by the Choctaw people.
I believe the Choctaw reference establishes the most likely origins of the phrase in the context of the place and time. Not that Montgomery or Richardson might have known that origin. They got the name from someplace. They didn't invent the phrase.
I know who Bob Boze Bell is. Just because he says it's so, don't make it so. The origins of OK in the OK Corral name from "Old Kindersley" (sic?) that Bob Boze Bell asserts may not be based on anything more than his having made a passing effort to find the origins of the OK phrase. If you read the article on the source of the phrase OK i believe you will see that the origin in "old Kindersley" or a close phrase like it was commonly accepted for many years.Bob Boze Bell may have swallowed that tale. Can you find his source for his statement?
"Montgomery ... opened the business in 1879. Montgomery bought Benson out in 1882 and operated the business for at least another six years." Is this the content you're trying to find a better source for? I bet you could find one. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 19:40, 25 October 2014 (UTC)