User talk:Clearbluepr

Hello, concerning your contribution, Towing Safety, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a direct copy from www.masterlock.com/automotive/pdf/Towing_Troubles_2006_B.pdf. As a copyright violation, Towing Safety appears to qualify for speedy deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Towing Safety has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If the source is a credible one, please consider rewriting the content and citing the source.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GFDL, you can comment to that effect on Talk:Towing Safety. If the article has already been deleted, but you have a proper release, you can reenter the content at Towing Safety, after describing the release on the talk page. However, you may want to consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you, and please feel free to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Slp1 20:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. --Slp1 21:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I left a message for you on Talk:Towing Safety --Slp1 21:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Towing Safety Article

Hi, It looks like they deleted Towing Safety which is too bad since I thought we were starting to get somewhere. Anyway, I have managed to save the talk page so that you can try to get the necessary permissions before you try again!!! Or, like I say below, you could also rewrite in your own words which would avoid all this permission problem!!! --Slp1 04:38, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from Talk:Towing Safety

This information was released in a national press release by Master Lock (and their PR agency ClearBlue)as part of their initiative to provide information and educate consumers on the importance of towing safely. Materials provided in the press release and then published on this website are allowed to be reprinted and published for educational uses. Clearbluepr 21:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)ClearBluePR[reply]

Hi, I have replaced the speedy tag and fixed up your hangon tag so that it will work effectively. Can I suggest that you review this [[1]] for more information about the copyright rules here at wikipedia. I believe it is possible for MasterLock to give some sort of appropriate permission for its use, but I know it is not straightforward and the education use permission are not accepted by Wikipedia. I am not an expert at this but could try to help you if you want. In any case, I don't think the MasterLock part would be able to stay, since it is really an ad, and that is not really suitable in an encyclopedia. Good luck and let me know if I can help --Slp1 21:33, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is more specific information about what you have to do at [2], in case it helps! --Slp1 21:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the information. I am new to posting on this site, but I do have a couple of questions: 1. If the Master Lock part at the bottom is removed, can the rest of the piece stay? 2. How do I prove that I have permission from the company to post this information? I would like to include Master Lock as the source of this study, but understand if they cannot be used throughout the entire document. 3. I am including the actual link [3]to the press release where this information was taken from. My goal is to elaborate on the issue of towing safety, and believe that this press release is a good start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.236.151.243 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 19 December 2006

Hi again, For your questions...

Question 1. I think it will help the article stay (and make the posting look more appropriate) if you remove the Master Lock parts, but in any case the thing about Wikipedia is that anybody can edit whatever you post here, so somebody will likely delete it whether you do or not!! The same goes with the rest of the article. You have to be prepared for the fact that others will alter it significantly, add things, delete things etc ad infinitum. But the big problem at the moment is that it is a word for word copy of a copyrighted work, and WP can't accept it without permission, which leads me to...

Question 2. Here is what I found at [4] about how you can prove that you have permission:

"Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia: If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, stating that you are the copyright holder of the work on the article's talk page helps, but will not likely prevent deletion. It is sufficient to either:

Make a note permitting reuse under the GFDL at the site of the original publication; or
Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en at wikimedia dot org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation."

If you look at the link where I got this from then there are links to how to do each of these things. It will be important to do this, because I checked the Master Lock website and the legal notices there are actually very strict (including nothing to be added, deleted, etc) which would make keeping the article here impossible without consent. It doesn't matter that it was a press release, unfortunately.

Question 3. If your goal is to inform people about towing safety then the simplest thing might be to rewrite the press release information in your own words. Then no consent would be required!!!

Good luck, and let me know if I can help anymore. --Slp1 03:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help! It sounds like rewriting the information and removing the Master Lock brand from the text is probably the best and easiest way to go. I will definitely look into the otherthings you mentioned too, though because it would be nice to use some of the information that we have already written.

Thanks!

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